Why does center of mass behave

In summary: This conversation discusses the behavior of center of mass in relation to external forces and internal forces. The center of mass behaves like a simpler object because it moves as though all the mass were concentrated at the center of mass and all the external forces were applied at that point. This can be summarized as "the cm of an object moves as though all the mass were concentrated at the cm and all the external forces were applied at that point."
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xailer
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Why when we throw an extended object like a baseball bat will the center of mass follow the same parabolic path that we expect for a smaller obeject like ball, while the bat itself will rotate around this ceneter of mass?

Why does center of mass behave like a simpler object?

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If you imagine that an extended body (mass = M) as a set of smaller mass elements (mass = m_1, m_2,...), Newton's 2nd law implies that [itex]F_{net} = M a_{cm}[/itex].

It goes like this. Start with the definition of center of mass:
[tex]M\vec{r}_{cm} = m_1 \vec{r}_1 + m_2 \vec{r}_2 \ ...[/tex]

Now take the second derivative:
[tex]M\vec{a}_{cm} = m_1 \vec{a}_1 + m_2 \vec{a}_2 \ ...[/tex]

From Newton's 2nd law applied to each mass element, recognize that:
[tex]M\vec{a}_{cm} = \vec{F}_1 + \vec{F}_2 \ ...[/tex]
[tex]M\vec{a}_{cm} = \vec{F}_{net} = \vec{F}_{external}[/tex]

Note that internal forces cancel out and only external forces count. This can be summarized by saying that the cm of an object (or collection of particles) moves as though all the mass were concentrated at the cm and all the external forces were applied at that point.

(For more details, consult any first year physics text.)
 
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What does [itex] a_{cm}[/itex] mean? Acceleration of a part of an object that is 1 cm in length?

If that is the case, then [tex]M\vec{r}_{cm}[/tex] must mean torque of a part of the body that is 1 cm in length?

Doc Al said:
[tex]M\vec{r}_{cm} = m_1 \vec{r}_1 + m_2 \vec{r}_2 \ ...[/tex]
Isn't that a formula for finding how far from the rotation axis a center of mass is? Aren't rotational and translational movements two different things. I don't see how you can combine the two if that is what you are doing here

Note that internal forces cancel out and only external forces count.
what would internal forces be in this case?

This can be summarized by saying that the cm of an object (or collection of particles) moves as though all the mass were concentrated at the cm and all the external forces were applied at that point.
I'm sorry but I can't seem to be able to see the connection

(For more details, consult any first year physics text.)
I did and they don't answer my questions
 
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xailer said:
What does [itex] a_{cm}[/itex] mean? Acceleration of a part of an object that is 1 cm in length?

If that is the case, then [tex]M\vec{r}_{cm}[/tex] must mean torque of a part of the body that is 1 cm in length?

No, the subscript "cm" stands for "center of mass".

Isn't that a formula for finding how far from the rotation axis a center of mass is? Aren't rotational and translational movements two different things. I don't see how you can combine the two if that is what you are doing here

No, that's the formula for locating the center of mass.

what would internal forces be in this case?

It could be anything that results in zero net force: Gravitational attraction, a string that connects the two masses, whatever.
 

FAQ: Why does center of mass behave

Why is the concept of center of mass important in physics?

The center of mass is important in physics because it helps us understand how objects behave and interact with each other. It is a fundamental concept in mechanics and is used in many calculations and theories, such as momentum, torque, and collisions.

How is the center of mass different from the center of gravity?

The center of mass is the point at which an object's mass is evenly distributed in all directions. The center of gravity, on the other hand, is the point at which the gravitational force on an object is balanced. While they may be in the same location for a symmetrical object, they can differ for irregularly shaped objects or in non-uniform gravitational fields.

Why does the center of mass behave differently for different shapes?

The center of mass behaves differently for different shapes because it is affected by the distribution of mass within an object. Objects with symmetrical shapes, such as a sphere or cube, have a center of mass at their geometric center. However, objects with asymmetrical shapes will have a center of mass that is offset from their geometric center.

How does the center of mass affect the stability of an object?

The position of an object's center of mass is directly related to its stability. If the center of mass is located over the base of support, the object will be stable. However, if the center of mass is located outside of the base of support, the object will be unstable and may topple over.

Can the center of mass of an object ever be outside of the object?

Yes, the center of mass can be located outside of an object. This is often the case for objects with irregular shapes or when multiple objects are connected. In these cases, the center of mass is still a useful concept for understanding the overall behavior of the object or system.

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