Why Does Equivalence Principle Imply Non-Existence of Higher Spin Fields?

In summary, the statement is inaccurate and does not accurately reflect the current state of the theory.
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ismaili
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I was told that the existence of higher spin fields whose spin is higher than 2 is forbidden by "equivalence principle" of GR(general relativity).

But after considering about it, I can't understand why equivalence principle could imply the nonexistence of higher spin fields (>2).

Could anyone explain this?
Thanks
 
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I cannot understand such a statement.
A wheel from my bicycle has very often a spin incredibly much larger than 2.

If you don't have first-hand information, better forget it completely.
But if you can have an explanation of this statement, tell me, I would like to know.

Maybe the whole point lies in the word "field" and a wheel has no relation to a field!
First of all, why was it that photons have spin 1?
And why should quantum gravity be a spin 2 field?
I think in both cases this can be traced back to the form of the classical Lagragian.
I can only remember how that goes for electrodynamics.
 
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It's called the Weinberg Witten theorem, that's all I can say to u.
 
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ismaili said:
I was told that the existence of higher spin fields whose spin is higher than 2 is forbidden by "equivalence principle" of GR(general relativity).

This is a very inaccurate statement. A more accurate version from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weinberg–Witten_theorem says:
''no massless (composite or elementary) particles with spin j greater than one are consistent with any renormalizable Lorentz-invariant quantum field theory excluding only (nonrenormalizable) theories of gravity and supergravity.''

References to the original papers (where you can find more details about the precise meaning of this statement) are given there, too.
 
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Nevertheless there is an argument that spin greater than 2 is forbidden completely.

questions:
- how does the argument for spin > 1 work?
- how does the argument for spin > 2 work?
- how does SUSY bypass the first argument? what is the loophole?
 
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tom.stoer said:
Nevertheless there is an argument that spin greater than 2 is forbidden completely.

It cannot be completely, since Weinberg constructs free fields of arbitrary spin.
 

FAQ: Why Does Equivalence Principle Imply Non-Existence of Higher Spin Fields?

What is the Equivalence Principle?

The Equivalence Principle is a fundamental concept in physics that states that the effects of gravity are indistinguishable from the effects of acceleration. This means that an observer in a uniform gravitational field would experience the same physical laws as an observer in an accelerating frame of reference.

How does the Equivalence Principle relate to higher spin fields?

The Equivalence Principle implies that all objects, regardless of their mass or composition, fall at the same rate in a uniform gravitational field. This means that the gravitational interaction between objects is independent of their internal structure, including the presence of higher spin fields.

Why do higher spin fields not exist according to the Equivalence Principle?

The Equivalence Principle suggests that the gravitational interaction between objects is solely dependent on their mass and position in space, and not on any other internal properties. Therefore, the existence of higher spin fields, which would affect the gravitational interaction, is not consistent with this fundamental principle.

Are there any experiments that support the Equivalence Principle and the non-existence of higher spin fields?

Yes, there have been numerous experiments conducted that support the Equivalence Principle and the absence of higher spin fields. One example is the Eötvös experiment, which showed that the gravitational acceleration of objects is independent of their composition.

What are the implications of the Equivalence Principle for our understanding of gravity?

The Equivalence Principle has significant implications for our understanding of gravity, as it suggests that the gravitational interaction is purely geometric and not affected by any other properties of objects. This has led to the development of general relativity, which describes gravity as the curvature of spacetime rather than a force between masses.

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