Why Does My Calculation of Ro Result in Zero for a Thermistor?

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In summary, the conversation discusses finding the constant k and R0 for a thermistor using a graph and the equation R= R0 ek/T. The gradient is found to be 2968.80, which is used to find R0. A point off the graph is also used to find R0, resulting in a value of 0.014. The conversation also touches upon the importance of choosing appropriate points and precision when finding the gradient.
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The resistance,R, of a thermistor varies with absolute temperature according to the following equation:

R= R0 ek/T


I was asked to find the constant k using the graph.

I put the equation given in the form

ln R= k/t + lnR0

k would be the gradient. So I found the gradient from the graph and I got 2968.80

then I was asked to find Ro

so I used a point off the graph and the gradient

point (2.88,4.3)

4.3 = lnRo + (2968.80/2.88)

=> lnRo = -1.031 x 106

then I took anti logs and got Ro = 0 . Which i think is wrong...

Guidance appreciated.
 
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lionely said:
point (2.88,4.3)

Should the 2.88 be multiplied by 10 to some power?

4.3 = lnRo + (2968.80/2.88)

Do you really want to divide here?
 
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Oh yeah the 2.88 should be 2.88 x 10^-3

and yeah wouldn't I divide? Isn't it k/T?
 
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and yeah wouldn't I divide? Isn't it k/T?

k/T says to divide by T. But you're graphing 1/T, not T.
 
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oh I see thank you.
 
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I got Ro to be 0.014
 
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That looks ok. But, I find the graph has a slope (gradient) closer to 2850. That would change the result for Ro somewhat.
 
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Oh what did you use for your values to find the gradient? I used (3.52*10^-3 , 6.2)

(2.88 * 10^-3, 4.3)
 
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When finding the gradient, it's best to pick two points on the line rather than picking two data points. The data points generally don't lie directly on the best fit line. Also, it's best to pick two points fairly far apart.

I picked the two points shown in the attached figure.
 

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ohh okay thank you
 
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Also, note that you cannot expect to get a gradient more precise than 3 significant figures for this graph.
 

FAQ: Why Does My Calculation of Ro Result in Zero for a Thermistor?

What is the purpose of graphing Ln(R) against 1/T?

The purpose of graphing Ln(R) against 1/T is to observe the relationship between the natural logarithm of a variable (Ln(R)) and the inverse of another variable (1/T). This type of graph can reveal any exponential or logarithmic trends in the data and help to determine the nature of the relationship between the two variables.

How do you interpret the slope of the graph of Ln(R) against 1/T?

The slope of the graph of Ln(R) against 1/T represents the rate of change in Ln(R) for every unit change in 1/T. This can provide insight into the strength and direction of the relationship between the variables. A steeper slope indicates a stronger relationship, while a flatter slope suggests a weaker relationship.

What can you learn from the intercept of the graph of Ln(R) against 1/T?

The intercept of the graph of Ln(R) against 1/T can provide information about the initial value of Ln(R) when 1/T is equal to zero. This can be useful in determining the starting point of the relationship between the variables and can also indicate the presence of any constant factors in the relationship.

Can you use the graph of Ln(R) against 1/T to make predictions?

Yes, the graph of Ln(R) against 1/T can be used to make predictions about the relationship between the variables. By extrapolating the trend line on the graph, you can estimate the value of Ln(R) for any given value of 1/T. However, it is important to note that these predictions may not be accurate if the data does not follow a linear or logarithmic trend.

What are the limitations of using the graph of Ln(R) against 1/T?

One limitation of using the graph of Ln(R) against 1/T is that it assumes a linear or logarithmic relationship between the variables. If the data does not follow this trend, the graph may not accurately represent the relationship between the variables. Additionally, the graph may not provide information about any other factors that may influence the relationship between Ln(R) and 1/T.

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