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yosimba2000
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Problem:
So I already know how to correctly find the formula for a Voigt model, but why is my proposed way incorrect?
Equations and Assumptions:
for dashpot: F = n(dx/dt), where n is the dashpot constant and dxdt is change in distance/change in time
for spring: F = kx
assuming: arm connecting dashpot and spring doesn't bend or rotate, then F applied is equal to Force on Spring + Force on Dashpot. Also, because the arm doesn't bend, displacement of Dashpot and Spring are equal.
the correct equation: X = F(1-exp(-kt/n))
My Proposed Method:
Force on spring + Force on dashpot = total Force (A)
F + F = F
kx + n(dx/dt) = F
n(dx/dt) is Force on dashpot.
why can't I separate to get: (ndx) = (Force on dashpot)dt
then integrate to get, both from 0 to respective final values, to get (nx) = (Force on dashpot)(t)
Then solve for Force on dashpot to get nx/t
Then plug this in for Force on dashpot in equation (A)
kx +nx/t = total Force
Solve for X
X = (F)/[(k+n)/t]
Essentially, what I am asking is: why do I HAVE to leave the dx/dt in the dashpot equation as is? Why can I not just say F = n(dx/dt), then separate and integrate to get F = nx/t, and then just substitue this in equation (A)?
So I already know how to correctly find the formula for a Voigt model, but why is my proposed way incorrect?
Equations and Assumptions:
for dashpot: F = n(dx/dt), where n is the dashpot constant and dxdt is change in distance/change in time
for spring: F = kx
assuming: arm connecting dashpot and spring doesn't bend or rotate, then F applied is equal to Force on Spring + Force on Dashpot. Also, because the arm doesn't bend, displacement of Dashpot and Spring are equal.
the correct equation: X = F(1-exp(-kt/n))
My Proposed Method:
Force on spring + Force on dashpot = total Force (A)
F + F = F
kx + n(dx/dt) = F
n(dx/dt) is Force on dashpot.
why can't I separate to get: (ndx) = (Force on dashpot)dt
then integrate to get, both from 0 to respective final values, to get (nx) = (Force on dashpot)(t)
Then solve for Force on dashpot to get nx/t
Then plug this in for Force on dashpot in equation (A)
kx +nx/t = total Force
Solve for X
X = (F)/[(k+n)/t]
Essentially, what I am asking is: why do I HAVE to leave the dx/dt in the dashpot equation as is? Why can I not just say F = n(dx/dt), then separate and integrate to get F = nx/t, and then just substitue this in equation (A)?