Why does op amp saturation occur below supply voltage?

In summary, the conversation is about building an inverting op amp circuit with a gain that was expected to produce a clipped output at +10V and -10V, but instead clipped at +9V and -9V. The reason for this 1V difference is due to the output transistors needing more than a volt to operate in their high-gain bias regions. This is because the output devices are likely laid out in a common emitter / common source configuration. Alternatively, using rail-to-rail opamps with a more complex output stage could also achieve this functionality. The issue could also be caused by a too strong load or the size of the feedback resistors used on the opamp.
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I built an inverting op amp circuit on a circuit simulator and did a transient analysis on it. I set the gain such that I expected a clipped output, but to my surprise it got clipped at +9V and -9V instead of +10V and -10V, which were the voltages supplied to the op amp. So why would this be the case? What accounts for the 1V difference about the supply rails?
 
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The output transistors need more than a volt in order to operate in their high-gain bias regions (forward active if this is a bipolar opamp, saturation if this is a CMOS opamp). The output devices are probably laid out in a common emitter / common source configuration. To understand it, draw a common-emitter NPN amp driving a resistor load. What is the minimum output voltage of this circuit? Why can't it go down to VEE?

You can buy rail-to-rail opamps which use a more complex output stage if you need this functionality.
 
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Could also be the load was too strong. Was there an output resistor? What size feedback resistors did you use on the opamp? But most likely it is what Carlgrace said.
 

FAQ: Why does op amp saturation occur below supply voltage?

1. What is op amp saturation?

Op amp saturation occurs when the output voltage of an operational amplifier reaches its maximum or minimum value and cannot increase or decrease further.

2. Why does op amp saturation occur?

Op amp saturation occurs due to the limitations of the amplifier's power supply. When the input signal is too large, the output voltage of the op amp reaches the supply voltage limits and cannot increase or decrease any further.

3. How does op amp saturation affect the performance of a circuit?

Op amp saturation can cause distortion in the output signal and can also lead to incorrect or unexpected results in the circuit. It limits the range of the output voltage and can affect the accuracy and stability of the circuit.

4. Can op amp saturation be prevented?

Op amp saturation can be prevented by using a power supply with a higher voltage rating, using a different op amp with a higher supply voltage limit, or by adjusting the input signal to stay within the supply voltage limits.

5. What are the consequences of operating an op amp beyond its supply voltage limits?

Operating an op amp beyond its supply voltage limits can cause permanent damage to the amplifier, leading to a shorter lifespan or complete failure. It can also introduce errors and inaccuracies in the circuit and affect the overall performance.

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