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tacitus81
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I've had long enough time series to confirm that something goes wonky around this time of the month. Sleep is disrupted and there are psychological difficulties. There are signs it's genetic - we can trace behavioral instabilities up one branch of the family tree and it's resulted in an en masse diagnosis of really cyclical familial bipolar disorder, not otherwise specified, please don't have kids.
There are signs that our version of bipolar is related to dysregulation of the molecular clocks Pythagorean mentions. For example, when we remember to take it, melatonin has done wonders and not just for sleep. (N.B. Forgot it this time, wasn't paying attention.) We suspect that our version will eventually be diagnosed as a mitochondrial, metabolic disorder, not only because it's followed the women down the line.
http://hmg.oxfordjournals.org/content/14/2/241.short
I'm certainly not saying that everyone who is awake right now has an illness, but we might share bits and pieces of the genes that in less lucky families results in systematic failures of some subsystem. It might be worthwhile to think of it in evolutionary terms - there are obvious advantages for people who find themselves more active when there's more light, less when there's less - but it'd be terribly disruptive if everybody were like this.
If it's actually the case that we're still entrained, I'm much more likely to believe that it's about sensing the moon phase through changes in the environment than a direct interaction with the moon. Plants, for example, contain markers for moon phase:
http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1579/0044-7447-31.6.485
http://dx.doi.org/10.1017/S0025315400009565 (very old, but interesting as it claims the moonlight is not responsible!)
Bugs do, birds do, fish do, etc. I would not be surprised if microorganisms do. So perhaps the moon is ultimately to blame, but organisms were sensing it a thousand million years before we got to the scene. We wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel by sensing the moon phase directly - we'd probably be led in that direction by food sources that entrained us. If we are looking for a way to sense the moon phase, there are so many markers on the ground.
I'm not saying physics has no say here - light is a zeitgeber - but the answer is probably in evolutionary biology.
I've had long enough time series to confirm that something goes wonky around this time of the month. Sleep is disrupted and there are psychological difficulties. There are signs it's genetic - we can trace behavioral instabilities up one branch of the family tree and it's resulted in an en masse diagnosis of really cyclical familial bipolar disorder, not otherwise specified, please don't have kids.
There are signs that our version of bipolar is related to dysregulation of the molecular clocks Pythagorean mentions. For example, when we remember to take it, melatonin has done wonders and not just for sleep. (N.B. Forgot it this time, wasn't paying attention.) We suspect that our version will eventually be diagnosed as a mitochondrial, metabolic disorder, not only because it's followed the women down the line.
http://hmg.oxfordjournals.org/content/14/2/241.short
I'm certainly not saying that everyone who is awake right now has an illness, but we might share bits and pieces of the genes that in less lucky families results in systematic failures of some subsystem. It might be worthwhile to think of it in evolutionary terms - there are obvious advantages for people who find themselves more active when there's more light, less when there's less - but it'd be terribly disruptive if everybody were like this.
If it's actually the case that we're still entrained, I'm much more likely to believe that it's about sensing the moon phase through changes in the environment than a direct interaction with the moon. Plants, for example, contain markers for moon phase:
http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1579/0044-7447-31.6.485
http://dx.doi.org/10.1017/S0025315400009565 (very old, but interesting as it claims the moonlight is not responsible!)
Bugs do, birds do, fish do, etc. I would not be surprised if microorganisms do. So perhaps the moon is ultimately to blame, but organisms were sensing it a thousand million years before we got to the scene. We wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel by sensing the moon phase directly - we'd probably be led in that direction by food sources that entrained us. If we are looking for a way to sense the moon phase, there are so many markers on the ground.
I'm not saying physics has no say here - light is a zeitgeber - but the answer is probably in evolutionary biology.