Why does the limit of [(1/e^x)-1] / [(1/e^x)+1] equal -1 as x goes to infinity?

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In summary: And the answer is not -1. It is 1. In summary, the limit of [(1/e^x)-1] / [(1/e^x)+1] as x approaches positive or negative infinity is 1, not -1. This can be seen by multiplying the numerator and denominator by e^x, which simplifies the expression to (1-e^x)/(1+e^x). As x approaches infinity, 1/e^x approaches 0, making the fraction approach -1/1 = -1. However, as x approaches negative infinity, 1/e^x also approaches 0, making the fraction approach 1/1 = 1. Therefore, the limit is 1, not
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I have a question and here it is :

[(1/e^x)-1] / [(1/e^x)+1]

why this equal -1 ?? when X →±∞I would appreciate it if you explain it for me on a paper after you capture it by your camera.
 

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Are you sure the answer is 1? The limit should be -1.
 
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sorry I forgot to put the - , yea it does equal -1 but why?
 
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What is [tex] \lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} {e^{-x}-1}?[/tex]
[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} {e^{-x}+1} ?[/tex] Just divide these two answers.
 
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HS-Scientist said:
What is [tex] \lim_{x\rightarrow \pm\infty} {e^{-x}-1}?[/tex]
[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow \pm\infty} {e^{-x}+1} ?[/tex] Just divide these two answers.

That only works for the limit to ##+\infty##.
 
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micromass said:
That only works for the limit to ##+\infty##.

yes and that drives me crazy:frown:
 
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micromass said:
That only works for the limit to ##+\infty##.

Thanks, fixed.

For negative x, multiply the numerator and denominator by [itex] e^x [/itex]
 
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so what about when x→-∞ ?
 
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YYaaSSeeRR said:
so what about when x→-∞ ?

First things first. Do you understand the limit when ##x\rightarrow +\infty##?
 
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micromass said:
First things first. Do you understand the limit when ##x\rightarrow +\infty##?

yes I do.
 
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YYaaSSeeRR said:
yes I do.

Cool. For the other limit, you'll need to follow the hint in #7.

The answer won't be -1, by the way.
 
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For negative x, multiply the numerator and denominator by ex

I have not seen this after the modification :)
thanks a lot ,this problem forced me to throw the book away.
 
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YYaaSSeeRR said:
I have not seen this after the modification :)



thanks a lot ,this problem forced me to throw the book away.

So you found the right answer??

Also: you might want to post this in "calculus and beyond" next time :-p
 
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micromass said:
So you found the right answer??

Also: you might want to post this in "calculus and beyond" next time :-p


yes I got the right answer.

you must see teachers here in Syria ,they drive you crazy.
can't wait till I graduate high school and arrive to the US.:wink:
 
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actually when I followed hint #7 the answer wasn't -1 ,so Micromass what is the right answer?
 
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(e^-x - 1) / (e^-x +1)

Multiply num and denom by e^x

(1 - e^x) / (1 + e^x)

so you if you got positive 1 with negative infinite that makes sense as that reduces to
1/1 = 1
 
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ChaseRLewis said:
(e^-x - 1) / (e^-x +1)

Multiply num and denom by e^x

(1 - e^x) / (1 + e^x)

so you if you got positive 1 with negative infinite that makes sense as that reduces to
1/1 = 1

(1 - e^x) / (1 + e^x) when x→-∞

yea it does equal 1 , but in my textbook when x→-∞ the equation (e^-x - 1) / (e^-x +1) equal -1 and that make no sense for me.
 
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If your textbook says the answer is -1, then your textbook is wrong. The answer is 1.
 
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Are we still talking about "[(1/e^x)-1] / [(1/e^x)+1]" as x goes to infinity? For very large x, 1/e^x is very close to 0 so the fraction is close to -1/1= -1.

(Oh, I see. The original post said "as [itex]x \to \pm\infty[/itex]" and the limit as x goes to negative infinity is 1.)
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Are we still talking about "[(1/e^x)-1] / [(1/e^x)+1]" as x goes to infinity? For very large x, 1/e^x is very close to 0 so the fraction is close to -1/1= -1.

No, we're talking about the limit to ##-\infty##.
 

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Why does this limit equal 1?

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