Why does the stone stop before reaching the surface at the other end?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of dropping a stone through a hole in the Earth and how different resistances and mechanics affect its speed and trajectory. It also touches on the idea of using relativistic mechanics for the descent and classical mechanics for the ascent. Ultimately, it concludes that the stone will reach the same height on the opposite side due to the symmetry of space-time curvature.
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Imaging a hole the whole way through the Earth, and we will drop a stone into the hole. Imaging there were no resistances at all.

Now the stone would reach the opposite at the Earth and speed here would be exactly zero at the surface at the other end..

Now we will repeat the experiment but this time “Relativistic Resistances” would still count.

It requires more and more energy to get a diminishing increase in speed. – This means that when the stone would reach the center it would not have achieved that speed it is necessary to escape to the surface at the opposite end.

So the stone would now stop before reaching the surface at the other end. (?)
Is that false or correct?

If it is false, - why ?
 
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Bjarne said:
Imaging a hole the whole way through the Earth, and we will drop a stone into the hole. Imaging there were no resistances at all.

Now the stone would reach the opposite at the Earth and speed here would be exactly zero at the surface at the other end..

Now we will repeat the experiment but this time “Relativistic Resistances” would still count.

It requires more and more energy to get a diminishing increase in speed. – This means that when the stone would reach the center it would not have achieved that speed it is necessary to escape to the surface at the opposite end.

So the stone would now stop before reaching the surface at the other end. (?)
Is that false or correct?

If it is false, - why ?

The red part. It seems you are trying to use relativistic mechanics for the descent but then argue classically about the ascent based on speed. You assume that the "speed necessary to escape to the surface" would be the same in classic or relativistic mechanics.

No matter if classic or relativistic mechanics: The stone converted all potential energy from surface to center into kinetical energy, so it can convert it back to get to the same height. But the speed it has with maximal kinetical energy might be different.

You can also treat the problem geometrically. Since the space time curvature is symmetric, the stone will arrive at the same opposite height. The space time curvature for this case is visualized here:

http://www.adamtoons.de/physics/gravitation.swf

Set initial position to -1 or 1 and initial velocity to 0 for a drop from the surface. As you see the object swings between the surfaces, simply by following a geodesic path in curved space time.
 
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FAQ: Why does the stone stop before reaching the surface at the other end?

What is the definition of relativistic resistance?

Relativistic resistance, also known as relativistic drag, is a phenomenon in which an object moving at high speeds experiences an increase in resistance due to its motion through a medium.

How is relativistic resistance different from regular resistance?

Relativistic resistance is different from regular resistance in that it takes into account the effects of special relativity, such as time dilation and length contraction, on the object's motion. Regular resistance only considers the object's speed and the properties of the medium it is moving through.

What causes relativistic resistance?

Relativistic resistance is caused by the object's motion through a medium, such as air or water. As the object moves at high speeds, it creates a disturbance in the medium, causing an increase in resistance.

How does relativistic resistance affect an object's motion?

Relativistic resistance can significantly impact an object's motion, especially at speeds close to the speed of light. It can cause the object to experience a decrease in acceleration and an increase in the force required to maintain its velocity. This can ultimately lead to a decrease in the object's overall speed.

Can relativistic resistance be overcome?

Yes, it is possible to overcome relativistic resistance by reducing the object's speed or by changing the properties of the medium it is moving through. For example, spacecrafts can reduce their speed when entering a planet's atmosphere to minimize the effects of relativistic resistance.

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