Why Does the Supremum Definition Make Sense for Infinite Decimal Expansions?

In summary, an infinite decimal expansion can be represented as a sum of the digits divided by the powers of 10. The supremum of this sequence of partial sums is equal to the limit of the sequence, which is the least upper bound of the terms in the sequence. This is a consequence of the monotone convergence theorem, which states that a monotonically increasing and bounded sequence has a finite limit. In our case, the sequence of partial sums is non-decreasing and bounded, so the theorem applies and the supremum is equal to the limit. This can also be seen by considering that each digit in the expansion is less than 10, so the sum of the digits divided by powers of 10 is less than 1,
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kingwinner
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"An infinite decimal expansion has the following meaning:
0.a1 a2 a3 a4... =

∑ ak / 10k =
k=1
sup{∑ ak / 10k : n E N}
where ∑ is the sum from k=1 to k=n."
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Why is the second equality (about the supremum) true? (or why does it make sense?)

Thanks.
 
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Here each a_k is positive, so the sequence of partial sums is increasing, and its supremum and limit are equal.
 
  • #3
This is a consequence of the monotone convergence theorem, which states that if we have a monotonically increasing sequence of numbers (i.e. a sequence [itex](a_n)[/itex] for which [itex]a_k \leq a_{k+1}[/itex] for all k, then the sequence has a finite limit if and only if the sequence is bounded.

Remember an infinite series is nothing more than a limit of partial sums and these partial sums can be treated as a sequence. In this case, the partial sums are

[tex]s_n = \sum_{k=1}^{n} \frac{a_k}{10^k}.[/tex]

The limit [itex]\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty} s_n[/tex] if it exists, is denoted [itex]\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{a_k}{10^k}.[/itex]

Now clearly [itex](s_n)[/itex] is monotonically increasing (Why?). If it is unbounded, then the equality we are seeking is trivial. If the sequence is bounded, the monotone convergence theorem tells us that the sequence not only has a limit, but in fact this limit is the least upper bound of the terms of the sequence, which is exactly what we want.

Check out

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotone_convergence_theorem

for more info.
 
  • #4
snipez90 said:
This is a consequence of the monotone convergence theorem, which states that if we have a monotonically increasing sequence of numbers (i.e. a sequence [itex](a_n)[/itex] for which [itex]a_k \leq a_{k+1}[/itex] for all k, then the sequence has a finite limit if and only if the sequence is bounded.

Remember an infinite series is nothing more than a limit of partial sums and these partial sums can be treated as a sequence. In this case, the partial sums are

[tex]s_n = \sum_{k=1}^{n} \frac{a_k}{10^k}.[/tex]

The limit [itex]\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty} s_n[/tex] if it exists, is denoted [itex]\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{a_k}{10^k}.[/itex]

Now clearly [itex](s_n)[/itex] is monotonically increasing (Why?). If it is unbounded, then the equality we are seeking is trivial. If the sequence is bounded, the monotone convergence theorem tells us that the sequence not only has a limit, but in fact this limit is the least upper bound of the terms of the sequence, which is exactly what we want.

Check out

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotone_convergence_theorem

for more info.

The theorem in my textbook is as follows:
if a_n is nondecreasing and bounded, then lim a_n converges to sup a_n.

But in our case, I can see that s_n is nondecreasing, but how can we prove that s_n =
n
∑ ak / 10k
k=1
is bounded?

Thanks!
 
  • #5
kingwinner said:
The theorem in my textbook is as follows:
if a_n is nondecreasing and bounded, then lim a_n converges to sup a_n.

But in our case, I can see that s_n is nondecreasing, but how can we prove that s_n =
n
∑ ak / 10k
k=1
is bounded?

Thanks!
It is less than [itex](a_1+1)/10[/itex].
 
  • #6
HallsofIvy said:
It is less than [itex](a_1+1)/10[/itex].

Why?? (this is not so obvious to me...)
 
  • #7
because [itex].0a_2a_3a_4... < .1[/itex].

Each digit is less than 10 so [itex]a_210^{-2}\le .09[/itex], [itex]a_310^{-3}\le .009[/itex], etc.

[itex]a_2 10^{-2}+ a_3 10^{-3}+ ...\le .09+ .009+ ...< .1[/itex].
 

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