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Shouldn't time speed up at high speeds because things would interact more quickly?
Why does time slow down instead of speed up when traveling at high speeds?
In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of time dilation and the difference between proper time and coordinate time. The main point is that time always flows at the same rate locally, but the amount of proper time it takes to reach a certain event is dependent on velocity. This means that at high speeds, time may appear to speed up for an outside observer, but for the person moving at that speed, time is still passing at the same rate. This can be seen in the example of an airplane versus a car, where the clocks will show different times due to their different velocities, but to the people in each, time is still passing at the same rate.
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If you search this forum or google the internet for "light clock" you will find the simplest explanation of why a clock that is at rest will tick more rapidly than a clock that is moving relative to it.KarminValso1724 said:
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KarminValso1724 said:
They don't interact more quickly in the reference frame moving at high speed. If you are in a rocket ship moving at, say, half the speed of light with respect to the earth, everything inside the ship would appear to be the same as if the ship were standing still with respect to the earth. There's no experiment you can do to distinguish the two situations.
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-- until the traveling ship returns the 'stationary' observer, at which point you can compare the ship clock to the stationary one, and they will show a difference.pixel said:
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The clock of the moving person will appear to move slower to an outside "stationary" observer. But that is just a sort of distortion due to the two disagreeing on how separated events can be called simultaneous. The moving person can not detect any change and will think that the "stationary" person has a slow clock. That is because the disagreement regarding "simultaneous" causes the same distortion for him observing the stationary clock.
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I'm not sure that this helps to dispel some of the confusion about time dilation, but I think it allows you to consider it in maybe a new way.
The usual way that people talk about time dilation is in terms of proper time, [itex]\tau[/itex] being velocity-dependent, [itex]\delta \tau(v) = \sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}} \delta t[/itex].
I think that that's maybe a backwards way of looking at it. Proper time is the primary quantity. It's the quantity that has physical significance. Every time-dependent physical process is governed by proper time [itex]\tau[/itex], not coordinate time [itex]t[/itex]. [itex]\tau[/itex] determines the ticking of clocks and the aging of humans and the decay of uranium atoms. In contrast, [itex]t[/itex] is a label we place on events to locate them in spacetime. It has no direct physical significance. So in light of that, our equation for proper time should be inverted, to write:
[itex]\delta t = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}} \delta \tau[/itex]
Of course, this is mathematically equivalent, but it switches what's considered an independent variable and what's considered a dependent variable. This alternative formula should be compared with the formula for constant-velocity motion:
[itex]\delta x = V^x \delta \tau[/itex]
Your position after time [itex]\delta \tau[/itex] changes by [itex]V^x \delta \tau[/itex], where [itex]V^x[/itex] is your velocity in the x-direction. In a similar way, the inverted time dilation formula
[itex]\delta t = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}} \delta \tau[/itex]
can be interpreted as constant-velocity motion in the [itex]t[/itex]-direction, where your velocity [itex]V^t = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}[/itex]
This is a little bit confusing, because the word "time" is being used in two different senses: (2) [itex]t[/itex] is the time-coordinate, which is one of the four coordinates you use to pinpoint a spot in 4-dimensional spacetime: [itex](x,y,z,t)[/itex]. (3) [itex]\tau[/itex] is proper time, which is the time that is important for any unfolding process such as aging, or radioactive decay or the advancing of a clock.
So in this way of viewing things, time dilation doesn't mean that "time slows down for moving clocks". Instead, it means "the amount of proper time that it takes to get to a given event (point in spacetime) depends on your velocity (both through the [itex]t[/itex] dimension, and the spatial dimensions)". It's not too strange that if two people are traveling toward the same destination, then the one with the largest velocity will get there sooner (as measured by the proper time spent traveling). The new idea in Special Relativity is to think of "destination" as being a point in 4-dimensional spacetime, rather than a point in 3-dimensional space.
The usual way that people talk about time dilation is in terms of proper time, [itex]\tau[/itex] being velocity-dependent, [itex]\delta \tau(v) = \sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}} \delta t[/itex].
I think that that's maybe a backwards way of looking at it. Proper time is the primary quantity. It's the quantity that has physical significance. Every time-dependent physical process is governed by proper time [itex]\tau[/itex], not coordinate time [itex]t[/itex]. [itex]\tau[/itex] determines the ticking of clocks and the aging of humans and the decay of uranium atoms. In contrast, [itex]t[/itex] is a label we place on events to locate them in spacetime. It has no direct physical significance. So in light of that, our equation for proper time should be inverted, to write:
[itex]\delta t = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}} \delta \tau[/itex]
Of course, this is mathematically equivalent, but it switches what's considered an independent variable and what's considered a dependent variable. This alternative formula should be compared with the formula for constant-velocity motion:
[itex]\delta x = V^x \delta \tau[/itex]
Your position after time [itex]\delta \tau[/itex] changes by [itex]V^x \delta \tau[/itex], where [itex]V^x[/itex] is your velocity in the x-direction. In a similar way, the inverted time dilation formula
[itex]\delta t = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}} \delta \tau[/itex]
can be interpreted as constant-velocity motion in the [itex]t[/itex]-direction, where your velocity [itex]V^t = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}[/itex]
This is a little bit confusing, because the word "time" is being used in two different senses: (2) [itex]t[/itex] is the time-coordinate, which is one of the four coordinates you use to pinpoint a spot in 4-dimensional spacetime: [itex](x,y,z,t)[/itex]. (3) [itex]\tau[/itex] is proper time, which is the time that is important for any unfolding process such as aging, or radioactive decay or the advancing of a clock.
So in this way of viewing things, time dilation doesn't mean that "time slows down for moving clocks". Instead, it means "the amount of proper time that it takes to get to a given event (point in spacetime) depends on your velocity (both through the [itex]t[/itex] dimension, and the spatial dimensions)". It's not too strange that if two people are traveling toward the same destination, then the one with the largest velocity will get there sooner (as measured by the proper time spent traveling). The new idea in Special Relativity is to think of "destination" as being a point in 4-dimensional spacetime, rather than a point in 3-dimensional space.
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If you are on an airplane moving at 600 m.p.h., do things "interact more quickly" than when you are in a car going 60 m.p.h.?
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No, as was clearly stated already, locally there is no change in the rate of things. Time ALWAYS flows locally at one second per second. Now, if you want to compare the clocks in the airplane and the car you WILL see a difference but the people in each will see the clocks ticking at one second per second.pixel said:
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My question about being on an airplane was a rhetorical one for the OP, not a question for forum members.
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Oops. Had I been paying attention I would have realized that. Sorry.pixel said:My question about being on an airplane was a rhetorical one for the OP, not a question for forum members.
FAQ: Why does time slow down instead of speed up when traveling at high speeds?
Why does time slow down instead of speed up when traveling at high speeds?
According to Einstein's theory of relativity, time and space are relative to the observer's frame of reference. This means that time can appear to pass at different rates depending on the observer's speed and position relative to the object they are observing. When traveling at high speeds, an observer's frame of reference is different from that of a stationary observer, causing time to appear slower.
Is this phenomenon only applicable to objects traveling at the speed of light?
No, the phenomenon of time dilation occurs at any speed relative to an observer's frame of reference. However, the effects are only noticeable at speeds close to the speed of light, which is why it is often associated with objects traveling at this speed.
Does time dilation only occur when traveling through space, or does it also occur when traveling through time?
Time dilation occurs in both instances. When an object is traveling through space, its speed relative to an observer's frame of reference causes time to appear slower. Similarly, when an object is traveling through time, its speed relative to an observer's frame of reference in the present also causes time to appear slower.
How does time dilation affect aging?
Time dilation can affect aging in the sense that, from an observer's perspective, someone traveling at high speeds will age slower than someone who is stationary. This is because time appears to slow down for the object traveling at high speeds, so less time passes for them compared to the stationary observer.
Is there any way to reverse or control time dilation?
No, time dilation is a natural phenomenon that occurs based on an observer's frame of reference. It cannot be reversed or controlled. However, it is important to note that the effects of time dilation are only noticeable at extremely high speeds, such as those close to the speed of light.