Why Does Water Expand When Frozen?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the nature of water and questions what exactly it is and how it behaves. It is suggested that the liquid manifestation of water could be a result of intermolecular forces and hydrogen bonding. The reason for water expanding when frozen is also discussed, with the possibility of hydrogen bonds becoming more permanent at lower temperatures. The conversation ends with a question about the role of hydrogen and oxygen in the behavior of water.
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i'm just curious if anyone has any idea what water IS.now i know the chemistry h2o,however this is not what i mean. if i separate the three atoms nothing that we now of, other than the atoms themselves, manifests it's self. however once we bring the three atoms together we get a drop of water,so we know the mechanics of why and how but does anyone know the qualitative WHAT? it is. what is the liquid the manifestation of? is it magnetism focused? and that it expands when frozen? just guessing here people. and i would think that the drop would surround the three atoms so that they are submerged within this drop of liquid manifestation.
 
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Actually you need 6 H2O molecules to get the properties of water. What the liquid is a manifestation of? Intermolecular forces?
 
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...what is the liquid the manifestation of? is it magnetism focused? and that it expands when frozen? just guessing here people. and i would think that the drop would surround the three atoms so that they are submerged within this drop of liquid manifestation.

If you have a question, I think you'd be better served if you state clearly what your question is. If you are proposing some theory, then you should post in Theory Development, under General Physics.

At this point, what you have written makes little or no sense.
 
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if it takes 6 h2o for properties of water to come forth,then what happens with just 1 h2o? it could be intermolecular forces but how? what is the geometry of this molecule? and also,hydrogen and oxygen can become liquids at sufficiently low enough temperature on there own. i think that there is something that is going on inbetween the nucleous of the atom and it's electron shell. and that the coming together of hydrogen and oxygen atoms raises the liquefaction temperature. why expand when frozen? maybe when H&O2 come together they open a door so to speak at first which then closes when certain amount (energy?) is released. and when frozen can't go back, is blocked for some reason.or it just came to me,maybe more liquid is released but only so much because the temperature is not low enough to release more,plus perhaps boundries are set up. maybe both H&O2 also can act as a catalyst in both temperature directions.
 
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What are you asking?

Water is a very polar substance because it's a dipole, the electrons are not distributed evenly between the oxygen and the two hydrogens. Water is very good at forming hydrogen bonds (a type of dipole-dipole interaction where a hydrogen atom is bonded to an electronegative atom, like oxygen), these hydrogen bonds cause water to expand when it freezes into a crystalline structure. Normally the water molecules undergo hydrogen bonding, which breaks again due to thermal motion so in a liquid state the water molecules can get close together. When the thermal energy decreases to a certain point, hydrogen bonds become more permanent and the distance increases.
 

FAQ: Why Does Water Expand When Frozen?

Why does water expand when frozen?

Water expands when frozen because of its unique molecular structure. Unlike most substances, water molecules are arranged in a way that allows them to form hydrogen bonds with each other. When water is in its liquid state, these bonds are constantly breaking and reforming, allowing the molecules to move freely. However, when water freezes, these bonds become more rigid, causing the molecules to lock into a specific arrangement. This arrangement takes up more space than the liquid form, leading to expansion.

Does all water expand when frozen?

Yes, all water will expand when frozen, regardless of its source. This is because the properties of water molecules are the same regardless of where the water comes from. This means that whether it is tap water, ocean water, or water from a glacier, it will all expand when frozen.

Is there a limit to how much water can expand when frozen?

Yes, there is a limit to how much water can expand when frozen. Water reaches its maximum density at 4 degrees Celsius, meaning that it will take up the least amount of space at this temperature. As the temperature drops below 4 degrees, the water molecules start to form more hydrogen bonds, causing expansion. However, once the temperature drops below 0 degrees Celsius, the expansion will slow down and eventually stop as the molecules become too rigid to form more bonds.

Can water expand when frozen in a container?

Yes, water can expand when frozen in a container. This can be seen in ice cubes, which take up more space than the liquid water they were made from. When water freezes in a container, the expanding force can lead to the container cracking or breaking. This is why it is important to leave room for expansion when freezing water in a container.

How does the expansion of water when frozen affect the Earth's surface?

The expansion of water when frozen plays a significant role in shaping the Earth's surface. This is seen in the formation of glaciers, which are large masses of ice that form from compacted snow. As these glaciers move, they carve out valleys and create new landscapes. Additionally, the expansion of water in soil can lead to the cracking and breaking of rocks, which can further shape the Earth's surface over time.

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