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Hello, many correct explanations have been written, but also some that are not so, I hope what I comment will serve you.
There are no molecules that can descend in free fall to the surface, so analyzing density as a function of speed, as expressed in the first message, is an error, a collision-free trip is statistically very unlikely due to the large number of molecules that found in the trajectory, the collision is inevitable, every atmospheric model starts from this assumption. (A simple cross section analysis will tell you that they can travel a short distance without interacting with another molecule)
We can imagine a simplified model of the atmosphere, as a series of "almost spherical" layers that surround the surface of the Earth "almost spherical (geoid)". Well in each layer, as already expressed previously, the own weight of the layer increases the pressure of the immediately lower layer. Air is a compressible fluid, the pressure increases at a "almost constant" temperature between layers of "almost constant" volume when the radial difference tends to zero, ends up increasing the density of the gas. (This is applied by applying the gas law ideals)
Therefore there is more pressure due to the weight of the upper layers, simply using Archimedes' hydrostatic principle, convective currents only occur if the lower density is less than the upper one, so the hotter lower layers are confined, given the ascent of a layer, tends to expand in the 3 dimensions not only the radial. As a result, the contact surface between layers increases and so does the thermal exchange, quickly neutralizing any attempt at abrupt ascent… (Volcanic eruptions, atomic fungi, only rise to a certain height). Friction (collisions) and gravity end up prevailing over the average kinetic energy of a group of particles. As the atmosphere is a large thermodynamic system, in which the composition of the layers varies depending on the molecular size, since in the lower layers, there are more greenhouse gases, ## CO_2 ##, ## H_2O ## something of ## CH_4 ##, which are responsible for absorbing infrared shocks from the photons emitted by the sun and increasing their own kinetic energy, but by sharing the volume with ## O_2 ## and ## N_2 ## through collisions elastic, they transfer that kinetic energy to these molecules, increasing the temperature of the layers closest to the Earth's surface.
As the largest and heaviest molecules cannot break through easily, they do not reach high altitudes, but if ## O_2 ## and ## N_2 ## do, and not just up to 100km but well beyond, the ISS, must correct periodically its altitude due to atmospheric friction, and travels more than 400 km high.
These molecules/atoms, in the plasma state, are also part of the pressure supported by the lower layers. At these heights they are scarce, because only a very low percentage of molecules can by collisions in relatively close layers take speeds close to those of escape. This is seen in the Maxwell-Boltzman velocity distribution, the probability density of high velocities is really small.
I prefer not to comment on the technical aspects of the documents ...just a snapshot of the fundamental ideas extracted from the atmospheric models
There are no molecules that can descend in free fall to the surface, so analyzing density as a function of speed, as expressed in the first message, is an error, a collision-free trip is statistically very unlikely due to the large number of molecules that found in the trajectory, the collision is inevitable, every atmospheric model starts from this assumption. (A simple cross section analysis will tell you that they can travel a short distance without interacting with another molecule)
We can imagine a simplified model of the atmosphere, as a series of "almost spherical" layers that surround the surface of the Earth "almost spherical (geoid)". Well in each layer, as already expressed previously, the own weight of the layer increases the pressure of the immediately lower layer. Air is a compressible fluid, the pressure increases at a "almost constant" temperature between layers of "almost constant" volume when the radial difference tends to zero, ends up increasing the density of the gas. (This is applied by applying the gas law ideals)
Therefore there is more pressure due to the weight of the upper layers, simply using Archimedes' hydrostatic principle, convective currents only occur if the lower density is less than the upper one, so the hotter lower layers are confined, given the ascent of a layer, tends to expand in the 3 dimensions not only the radial. As a result, the contact surface between layers increases and so does the thermal exchange, quickly neutralizing any attempt at abrupt ascent… (Volcanic eruptions, atomic fungi, only rise to a certain height). Friction (collisions) and gravity end up prevailing over the average kinetic energy of a group of particles. As the atmosphere is a large thermodynamic system, in which the composition of the layers varies depending on the molecular size, since in the lower layers, there are more greenhouse gases, ## CO_2 ##, ## H_2O ## something of ## CH_4 ##, which are responsible for absorbing infrared shocks from the photons emitted by the sun and increasing their own kinetic energy, but by sharing the volume with ## O_2 ## and ## N_2 ## through collisions elastic, they transfer that kinetic energy to these molecules, increasing the temperature of the layers closest to the Earth's surface.
As the largest and heaviest molecules cannot break through easily, they do not reach high altitudes, but if ## O_2 ## and ## N_2 ## do, and not just up to 100km but well beyond, the ISS, must correct periodically its altitude due to atmospheric friction, and travels more than 400 km high.
These molecules/atoms, in the plasma state, are also part of the pressure supported by the lower layers. At these heights they are scarce, because only a very low percentage of molecules can by collisions in relatively close layers take speeds close to those of escape. This is seen in the Maxwell-Boltzman velocity distribution, the probability density of high velocities is really small.
I prefer not to comment on the technical aspects of the documents ...just a snapshot of the fundamental ideas extracted from the atmospheric models