Why Is the Calculation of Santa Ana Wind Temperatures Tricky?

  • Thread starter bcjochim07
  • Start date
In summary: The important phrase is that the air has no time to exchange heat with its surroundings. What does that signify? What relationship between P and T is true in that case?Hmmm... again I forgot that volume changes, and this is an adiabatic process, and volume decreases.
  • #1
bcjochim07
374
0
Easy question--but what's wrong?

Homework Statement


When strong winds rapidly carry air down from mountains to a lower elevation, the air has no time to exchange heat with its surroundings. The air is compressed as the pressure rises, and its temperature can increase dramatically. These warm winds are called Chinook winds in the Rocky Mountains and Santa Ana winds in California. Suppose the air temperature high in the mountains behind Los Angeles is 0 degrees C at an elevation where the air pressure is 60 kPa. What will the air temperature be, in C when the Santa Ana winds have carried this air down to an elevation near sea level where the air pressure is 100 kPa ?


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



This is a pretty straightforward problem, but for some reason I got the answer wrong.

P1/T1=P2/T2

(60kPa)/(273K) = (100kPa)/(T2) T2=455K = 180 degrees C
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
The important phrase is that the air has no time to exchange heat with its surroundings. What does that signify? What relationship between P and T is true in that case?
 
  • #3
Hmmm... again I forgot that volume changes, and this is an adiabatic process, and volume decreases

For an adiabatic process: P1V1^gamma = P2V2^gamma

Gamma is the specific heat ratio
gamma= Cp/Cv

since air is a mixture of mostly diatomic gases oxygen & nitrogen gamma = 29/20.8 = 1.40

so (60 kPa)(V1)^1.40 = (100kPa)(V2)^1.40
the ratio of V2/V1 = .694

P1V1/T1 = P2V2/T2

(60kPa)(V1)/(273 K) = (100kPa)(V2)/T2
(.220)*T2 = (V2)/(V1) * (100 kPa)
.220T2= 69.4
T2= 314.45 K = 42.45 degrees C

Is this anywhere near how I should approach this problem?
 
  • #4
Anybody have any thoughts about this? Thanks.
 
  • #5
That looks right to me. To save yourself a step or two you can also use the adiabatic relation for P and T directly:

[tex]
P^{\gamma -1} T^{-\gamma} = \mbox{ constant}
[/tex]

and there is also one for T and V only. But of course that is essentially what you did.
 

FAQ: Why Is the Calculation of Santa Ana Wind Temperatures Tricky?

What is an "easy question-but what's wrong?"

An "easy question-but what's wrong?" is a type of question that seems simple, but actually has a hidden or tricky aspect that makes it more difficult to answer correctly.

Why do people ask "easy question-but what's wrong?"

People may ask "easy question-but what's wrong?" for various reasons, such as testing the knowledge or critical thinking skills of the person being asked, or simply for the challenge and entertainment value.

What are some examples of "easy question-but what's wrong?"

Some examples of "easy question-but what's wrong?" may include riddles, paradoxes, or questions that require thinking outside of the box. For instance, "What has a head and a tail, but no body?" (A coin).

How can I answer an "easy question-but what's wrong?"

The key to answering an "easy question-but what's wrong?" is to think critically and consider all possible angles or interpretations of the question. It may also be helpful to approach the question with curiosity and an open mind.

Are "easy question-but what's wrong?" just meant for fun or can they have practical applications?

While "easy question-but what's wrong?" are often used for entertainment purposes, they can also have practical applications in problem-solving and critical thinking. These types of questions can help improve cognitive abilities and encourage creative thinking.

Back
Top