Why is the elastic potential energy when extension is (a+l/20) included?

In summary, the conversation is about finding the initial speed before an object strikes a barrier. The person used the principle of conservation of energy and is questioning why the elastic potential energy is included when the string is cut. The other person explains that there will still be tension in the string, and the gain in kinetic energy is equal to the gain in gravitational potential energy minus the decrease in elastic potential energy. The conversation ends with a thank you.
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1. Homework Statement
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I'm working on the second part of this question and I want to find the initial speed before P strikes the barrier.
So I used principle of conservation of energy,
K.E at Equilibrium position + elastic p.e. at Equilibrium positon = K.E just before it strikes the barrier + G.P.E at the barrier

But according to the solutions,
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Why Is the e.p.e when extension is (a+l/20) included? I thought the string is cut, so there shouldn't be any tension anymore

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If the mass is hanging on the string, then there will be tension in the equilibrium position. The tension in the string must balance the gravitational force on the mass.
 
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The KE when descending through the equilibrium position will be the same as when ascending through it.
It starts with no KE, but elastic PE corresponding to an extension of a+l/20, a being the equilibrium extension. In rising to the equilibrium position, it gains mgl/20 in GPE, but its extension decreases to a. Thus the gain in KE is EPE(a+l/20)-EPE(a)-GPE(l/20).
 
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PeroK said:
If the mass is hanging on the string, then there will be tension in the equilibrium position. The tension in the string must balance the gravitational force on the mass.
haruspex said:
The KE when descending through the equilibrium position will be the same as when ascending through it.
It starts with no KE, but elastic PE corresponding to an extension of a+l/20, a being the equilibrium extension. In rising to the equilibrium position, it gains mgl/20 in GPE, but its extension decreases to a. Thus the gain in KE is EPE(a+l/20)-EPE(a)-GPE(l/20).
Ok thank you.
 

FAQ: Why is the elastic potential energy when extension is (a+l/20) included?

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