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jetwaterluffy said:I searched the "axis of evil" and came up with http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-universe-the-new-axis-of-evil-465199.html
Fascinating. Thanks for posting that.
jetwaterluffy said:I searched the "axis of evil" and came up with http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-universe-the-new-axis-of-evil-465199.html
Is this a joke? Cosmological perturbation theory is a very well-developed branch of cosmology. The theory of inflationary fluctuations, yes -- quantum in origin, is also well-understood, well-motivated, and fits spectacularly well with observations. And it has nothing to do with spontaneous symmetry breaking.cephron said:"Oh, we don't know that. We just observe it happening all the time, and slapped a label on it. We call it 'Quantum Fluctuation'. If you want to hear what we do know about Quantum Fluctuation, read about it at [insert link to Impenetrable Wall of Math]."
Yes, the "axis of evil" is one of a few recent examples of potential inhomogeneity present in the universe that are manifested as a statistical anomalies in the low multipoles of the cosmic microwave background. These include a curious a alignment of the low multipoles (quadrupole and octupole -- the axis of evil), a seemingly anomalous suppression of power at low multipoles, and others (like the CMB cold spot). As far as I know, most of these result from playing the game of post-hoc statistics on CMB data sets, and don't constitute statistically significant findings. See http://arxiv.org/abs/1001.4758 for a recent summary of these anomalies in light of 7-year WMAP data. At the same time, people have come up with ways of understanding such inhomogeneities within the context of standard(ish) cosmology, through such processes as anisotropic inflation, pre-inflationary physics, nontrivial inflationary dynamics (that generate non-Gaussian fluctuations), cosmic textures, etc.jetwaterluffy said:I searched the "axis of evil" and came up with this
cephron said:I am going to speculate, but only on what the OP is trying to say ;) It seems to me, the discussion goes thus:
OP: "If the laws/properties/attributes of the universe are the same everywhere, why is our universe not a homogenous, static arrangement, held in perfect thermal and gravitational equilibrium by the sameness everywhere? (Like the cone, balancing on its tip?)"
"Spontaneous symmetry breaking introduces tiny variances which upset the balance, and the rest is history. (The cone has to fall; a tiny upset will ultimately tip it one way.)"
OP: "From whence come these tiny upsets, this 'Spontaneous symmetry breaking'?"
"Oh, we don't know that. We just observe it happening all the time, and slapped a label on it. We call it 'Quantum Fluctuation'. If you want to hear what we do know about Quantum Fluctuation, read about it at [insert link to Impenetrable Wall of Math]."
Why? Do you suspect we are saying different things? I don't think that adequately addressing the OP requires a foray into philosophical musings on whether change causes time or time causes change or the use of vaguely defined notions of "symmetry".willyp00 said:Did I take a different course than the other bloggers?
Your confusion stems from your attempts to apply "symmetry" in some grandiose way to the whole universe. That's not the right way to think of it. An example of a spontaneously broken symmetry is a pencil set on its tip and falling over, or the magnetization of a material upon cooling below the Curie temperature. The symmetries of relevance here are things like rotational and translational (geometric) symmetry. These (and many other kinds of symmetry) are alive and well in the universe (or once were), despite the vague arguments that you are making to the contrary.willyp00 said:It is the phrase "spontaneous breaking of symmetry" that gets me.
And I really hope that this is a joke.Our universe is rattling itself into entropy like a resonance feedback loop. The tendency for all rotational inertias to align is the enthalpy counter balance. It is also the mechanics of accretion
bapowell said:Your confusion stems from your attempts to apply "symmetry" in some grandiose way to the whole universe. That's not the right way to think of it. An example of a spontaneously broken symmetry is a pencil set on its tip and falling over, or the magnetization of a material upon cooling below the Curie temperature. The symmetries of relevance here are things like rotational and translational (geometric) symmetry. These (and many other kinds of symmetry) are alive and well in the universe (or once were), despite the vague arguments that you are making to the contrary.
And I really hope that this is a joke.
Sure. I set a pencil up on its tip. Then I push it over. I've broken the 2D rotational symmetry of the system.thedragonbook said:Doesn't this mean that there were unbalanced forces acting on the pencil.