Why is the Wave Formula Zero at x=±∞? Explained

In summary, the wave formula is equal to zero at x = positive/negative infinity due to the probabilistic interpretation and the requirement for the integral to converge. This is not the case for all states, as bound states have different conditions than scattering states. However, the problems of unbounded operators and scattering have been well understood for a long time and there is plenty of mathematical rigor to support the common practice in physics. While rigorous mathematics should not be disregarded, it is not always necessary to obtain sensible information about physical processes.
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why is the wave formula equal to zero when x equals postive/negative infinity?
 
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Hi,

I think is a requirement that follows from the probabilistic interpretation. If the integral

[tex]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}|\Psi|^2dx[/tex]

is to converge, psi is to go to zero at infinity
 
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Generally. it's not zero. Yes for bound states. But, scattering particles obey the Sommerfeld radiation conditions, outgoing waves go as exp(ikx), incoming go as exp(-ikx). To see this in action in a relatively simple way, see scattering from a square well potential in any QM text.
Regards,
Reilly Atkinson
 
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thank you very much! :)
 
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Scattering states are typically eigenstates of unbounded operators (we usually call them "plane waves" and "spherical waves"), like the free particle's Hamiltonian and momentum operators. Ortonormalizing such eigenstates (which are NOT in [itex] L^{2}\left(\mathbb{R}^{3}\right) [/itex] ) is a tricky problem. See Bogoliubov's text on axiomatical QFT.

Daniel.
 
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Kemble's QM text from the late 1930s show that the problems of unbounded operators, and scattering have been quite well understood for a long time, at least enough to do physics. Also, Arnold Sommerfeld deals with wave equations, primarily for electromagnetic wave problems, in unbouded space, and does so with a fair amount of rigor (cf Partial Differential Equations in Physics, 1949) Then there's a more sophisticated treatment treatment by Hille and Phillips in their Functional Analysis and Semi-Groups (1957)-- they show that single particle position operators and momentum operators have eigenvalues and eigenfuctions, for example. Then there's the quite exhaustive discussion of the use of wave packets by Goldberger and Watson in their Collision Theory(1964) The set of physics mathematics driven by physical intuition that has been proved wrong by mathematicians is close to one of measure zero.(Think of how useful delta functions are in working with Green's Functions.)

There's plenty of mathematical rigor to back up common pratice in physics. As Goldberger and Watson putit,

"Mathematics is an interesting intellectual sport, but it should not be allowed to stand in the way of obtaining sensible information about physical processes.This attitude may offend some purists, who should feel free to consult the mathematical literature whenever the mood strikes them." Their manifold contributions to physics validate their statements, at least in my opinion.

And, I do not suggest that rigorous mathematics should be eschewed by physicists; it's a matter of taste and interest. The good Professor Bogoliubov was a master in both the inuitive and and rigorous worlds.
Regards,
Reilly Atkinson
 
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wow! that's interesting~
 

FAQ: Why is the Wave Formula Zero at x=±∞? Explained

What does the wave formula x=±∞ → 0 represent?

The wave formula x=±∞ → 0 represents a wave that travels from positive or negative infinity to a point of equilibrium at 0. This could represent a variety of wave phenomena in different scientific fields, such as electromagnetic waves or sound waves.

How is the wave formula x=±∞ → 0 derived?

The wave formula x=±∞ → 0 is derived from the general equation for a wave, which includes variables for amplitude, frequency, and wavelength. By setting x to ±∞, the wave is assumed to travel infinitely in one direction. The point of equilibrium at 0 is chosen to represent the starting point of the wave.

What is the significance of the point of equilibrium at 0 in the wave formula x=±∞ → 0?

The point of equilibrium at 0 is significant because it represents the starting point of the wave. This means that the wave is assumed to have no initial displacement and begins at a point of rest before traveling outward in both directions to infinity.

How is the wave formula x=±∞ → 0 used in scientific research?

The wave formula x=±∞ → 0 is used in scientific research to model various wave phenomena and understand their behavior. It can be applied to study things like the propagation of light and sound, the behavior of electromagnetic fields, and the movement of particles in a medium.

Can the wave formula x=±∞ → 0 be applied to all types of waves?

Yes, the wave formula x=±∞ → 0 can be applied to a wide range of wave types, including mechanical, electromagnetic, and matter waves. However, it may need to be modified or adapted for specific situations, depending on the properties and behavior of the wave being studied.

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