Why Isn't the Right Side Negative in a Vertical Spring-Mass System Equation?

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In a vertical spring-mass system, the equilibrium position is determined by the balance of forces, where mg equals ky. When the block is pulled down and released, it moves upwards, leading to a situation where the net force and acceleration are both positive or negative, maintaining consistency with Newton's second law. If the right side of the equation were negative, it would imply that the acceleration opposes the net force, which contradicts the established principles of motion. The discussion clarifies that when the mass is below its equilibrium position, mg is greater than ky, resulting in an upward acceleration. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for accurately modeling the motion of the system.
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Homework Statement
Hi everyone,

The problem has two parts. The first is to determine the equilibrium position of a mass attached to a spring. The second is to determine the equation of motion of the system, assuming that the block is pulled 1 cm down from its equilibrium position.
Relevant Equations
I choose the downward direction as positive. For the first part and using the FBD:

mg - k y_{0} = 0

Then the equilibrium position is y_{0} = mg/k.

For the second part, we have that:

mg -k y = m d^2 y/dt^2
I have a doubt with the last part. Why isn't the right side negative? Because when the block is released, it moves upwards.

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Ark236 said:
Homework Statement: Hi everyone,

The problem has two parts. The first is to determine the equilibrium position of a mass attached to a spring. The second is to determine the equation of motion of the system, assuming that the block is pulled 1 cm down from its equilibrium position.
Relevant Equations: I choose the downward direction as positive. For the first part and using the FBD:

mg - k y_{0} = 0

Then the equilibrium position is y_{0} = mg/k.

For the second part, we have that:

mg -k y = m d^2 y/dt^2

I have a doubt with the last part. Why isn't the right side negative? Because when the block is released, it moves upwards.

thanks

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When ##y>y_0, mg-ky<0##, and then the right side, ##m \frac {d^2y} {dt^2}## is negative.
 
Both sides are negative at that point. The net force points upwards and the body accelerates upwards. The equation shows that thenet force and the acceleration have the same sign. They are either both positive or both negative. If you put a minus sign in the equation itself, it would mean that the acceleration is in direction opposite to the net force. This would contradict Newton's second law, wouldn't?
 
Ark236 said:
mg -k y = m d^2 y/dt^2

I have a doubt with the last part. Why isn't the right side negative? Because when the block is released, it moves upwards.
When the mass is below it's equilibrium position, which is bigger: mg or ky?
 
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