Why only positions and velocities

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In summary, the state of a physical system is completely determined by only positions and velocities due to a theorem in classical mechanics that guarantees a unique solution for each initial condition. This is because the functions describing acceleration have a simple form in gravitational and electromagnetic interactions. This can be traced back to the fact that any theory of interacting matter must have a low energy approximation in the form of a quantum field theory. However, the terms in the Lagrangian with higher-order derivatives suffer from a condition called non-renormalizability and are negligible in the low energy limit. A more detailed explanation can be found in a 50-minute YouTube video that provides a comprehensive answer to this question.
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Why is the state of a physical system completely determined by only positions and velocities, rather than (possibly) other derivatives?
 
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This can't be answered in the framework of classical mechanics, other than by pointing out that there's a theorem that guarantees that a differential equation of the form

[tex]\vec x''(t)=\vec f(\vec x'(t),\vec x(t),t)[/tex]

has exactly one solution for each initial condition, i.e. for each pair of equations of the form

[tex]\vec x(t_0)=\vec x_0[/tex]
[tex]\vec x'(t_0)=\vec v_0[/tex]

We're just "lucky" that the functions that describe the acceleration caused by gravitational or electromagnetic interactions have that simple form.

I believe that the reason for it can be traced back to the fact (more of a conjecture really) that any theory of interacting matter must have a low energy approximation in the form of a quantum field theory in order to be consistent with special relativity. The QFTs can contain higher-order derivatives of the fields, which (I'm guessing) imply that the best possible classical equation of motion is a more complicated differential equation. But the terms in the Lagrangian that contain those higher order terms suffer from a condition called non-renormalizability, and that makes them negligible in the low energy limit.
 
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Check out this YouTube video, I watched it only yesterday and I think it'll answer your question. It's 50 minutes, but well worth it!
 

FAQ: Why only positions and velocities

Why are only positions and velocities considered in physics?

Positions and velocities are fundamental quantities in physics because they describe the location and movement of objects in space and time. They are essential for understanding the behavior of particles and systems, and can be used to predict future positions and velocities based on known laws and equations.

Can other quantities besides positions and velocities be used in physics?

Yes, other quantities such as acceleration, momentum, and energy are also important in physics. However, these quantities can often be derived from positions and velocities, making them more fundamental.

Why do we need both positions and velocities to describe motion?

Positions and velocities are complementary quantities. While positions tell us where an object is located, velocities tell us how fast and in what direction it is moving. Together, they provide a complete description of an object's motion.

Are there situations where positions and velocities are not enough to describe a system?

In classical mechanics, positions and velocities are usually sufficient to describe a system. However, in more complex systems involving quantum mechanics or relativity, other quantities such as spin or spacetime curvature may also be necessary.

Why are positions and velocities important in practical applications?

Positions and velocities are essential for a wide range of practical applications, including navigation, robotics, and transportation. They allow us to accurately track the movement of objects and predict their future positions, which is crucial for many technological advancements.

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