Why pesistent current in a normal metal ring is a surprise?

In summary, the conversation discusses the surprise surrounding the presence of a persistent current in a normal metal ring threaded by a magnetic field. The Hamiltonian and eigenstates for this system are provided, showing that each eigenstate carries a current. However, it is mentioned that in reality, the situation is more complicated due to factors such as non-uniform potential and decoherence. Despite the simplicity of the basic ideas, the existence of persistent current is still considered surprising, similar to other quantum phenomena such as tunneling and entanglement. The cancellation of contributions from different eigenstates is also discussed, forming the basis of diamagnetism.
  • #1
wdlang
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i cannot understand why persistent current in a normal metal ring threaded by a magnetic field is a surprise.

the hamiltonian is

[tex]H=\frac{1}{2I}\left(-i \frac{\partial}{\partial \theta}-A\right)^2[/tex]

and the eigenstates are

[tex]\phi_m(\theta)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi}} e^{i m \theta}[/tex]

with eigenvalues

[tex]E_m=\frac{1}{2I}(m-A)^2[/tex].

It is ready to see that generally every eigenstate carries a current, a persistent one.

so why people think it is a surprise?
 
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  • #2
Try doing it, and see if what you think you understand matches reality!

Zz.
 
  • #3
ZapperZ said:
Try doing it, and see if what you think you understand matches reality!

Zz.

of course, in reality, the situation is more complicated, e.g., the potential is not uniform, there is decoherence.

but i think the basic idea is just too simple.
 
  • #4
We shouldn't be surprised with quantum tunneling and quantum entanglement either, because the basic ideas are also very simple. Yet, we still do!

Zz.
 
  • #5
In a many particle state, the contributions of the states with different m nearly cancel and there is only a very tiny fraction of that effect that survives. It forms the basis of diamagnetism.
 

FAQ: Why pesistent current in a normal metal ring is a surprise?

Why does a normal metal ring have persistent current?

Persistent current in a normal metal ring is a result of quantum mechanical effects. Specifically, it is caused by the quantization of energy levels in the ring due to its small size, leading to the formation of a closed loop of electrons that can flow continuously without resistance.

How is persistent current different from regular current?

Regular current is the flow of electrons through a conductor, whereas persistent current is a continuous flow of electrons in a closed loop without any resistance. Regular current can be disrupted by external factors, such as resistance or changes in the circuit, while persistent current is not affected by these factors.

Why is the persistence of current in a normal metal ring surprising?

The persistence of current in a normal metal ring is surprising because it goes against the traditional understanding of how current flows in a conductor. In a normal metal, current is expected to dissipate due to resistance, but persistent current continues to flow without any loss of energy.

What are the potential applications of persistent current in normal metal rings?

Persistent current in normal metal rings has potential applications in fields such as quantum computing and ultra-sensitive sensors. It could also potentially be used for energy storage, as persistent current can continue to flow for extended periods of time without any external source of energy.

Are there any drawbacks to persistent current in normal metal rings?

One potential drawback of persistent current in normal metal rings is that it requires extremely low temperatures to maintain. This makes it difficult to use in everyday applications and limits its practical use. Additionally, the formation of persistent current can be disrupted by external factors, such as magnetic fields or impurities in the metal, leading to a loss of persistence.

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