Why would f(x) not be included in the determinant?

In summary, the determinant of a matrix A with an upper triangular form will always be the product of the entries on its diagonal, regardless of the functions involved. This can be seen by expanding the determinant by the first diagonal and continuing to do so until the determinant is reduced to a product of the diagonal entries.
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epkid08
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Let's say I have a matrix A:

[tex]A=\begin{bmatrix}
f(x)& z_1(x)& z_2(x)\\
0& a(x)& b(x)\\
0& c(x)& d(x)
\end{bmatrix}[/tex]

I've noticed that the determinant of A will either be [tex]a(x)d(x) - b(x)c(x)[/tex] or [tex]f(x)a(x)d(x)-f(x)b(x)c(x)[/tex]. I've never found an example of it taking another form. My question is, is there a way to determine which one it is? Does it depend soley on [tex]f(x)[/tex], or does it depend on all functions in the matrix?
 
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Why would f(x) not be included in the determinant?
 
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Pengwuino said:
Why would f(x) not be included in the determinant?

I'm not sure why, but I've found an example, I'll post it in a minute.
 
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The 2 by 2 determinant
[tex]\left|\begin{array}{cc}a & b \\c & d\end{array}\right|[/tex]
is defined as "ad- bc".

The 3 by 3 determinant
[tex]\left|\begin{array}{ccc}a & b & c\\d & e & f\\ g & h & i\end{array}\right|[/itex]
can be "expanded by the first column" to give
[tex]a\left|\begin{array}{cc}e & f \\ h & i\end{array}\right|- d\left|\begin{array}{cc}b & c \\ h & i\end{array}\right|+ g\left|\begin{array}{cc}b & c \\ e & r\end{array}\right|[/tex]
= a(ei- fh)- d(bi- ch)+ g(bf- ce) .

In the special case that the bottom two entries of the first column are 0, that reduces to what you have:
[tex]a\left|\begin{array}{cc}e & f \\ h & i\end{array}\right|[/tex]
= a(ei- fh).
 
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Hmm, it's very possible that my book made a typo.

This is the example from my book:

Find the Wronskian of the set [tex]\{x,x^2,x^3\}[/tex]

[tex]W(x, x^2, x^3)=\left|\begin{array}{ccc}x & x^2 & x^3 \\1 & 2x & 3x^2\\ 0 & 2 & 6x\end{array}\right|[/tex]

[tex]xR_2-R_1 \rightarrow R_2[/tex]

[tex]W(x, x^2, x^3)=\left|\begin{array}{ccc}x & x^2 & x^3 \\0 & x^2 & 2x^3\\ 0 & 2 & 6x\end{array}\right|[/tex]

Now according to you, the Wronskian should evaluate to [tex]x((x^2)(6x)-(2)(2x^3))=2x^4[/tex], but the book has the answer as [tex]2x^3[/tex].
 
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Plugging in [tex]x=5[/tex] into the function, and using a calculator to evaluate the determinant, it seems like it was a typo all along.

Ehh!
 
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Another question.

So if I had a n by n matrix B:

[tex]
B_{n,n} =
\begin{bmatrix}
f_1(x) & a_2 & \cdots & a_{n-1}& a_n \\
0 & f_2(x) & \cdots & b_{n-1}&b_n \\
\vdots & \vdots & \ddots & \vdots&\vdots \\
0 & 0 &\cdots &f_{n-1}(x) & z_n\\
0 & 0 & \cdots & 0&f_n(x)
\end{bmatrix}
\]
[/tex]

(Ignoring my misuse of Latex, hopefully you know what I mean)

Does [tex]\det(B)[/tex] always equal [tex] \prod^n_{k=1}f_k(x)[/tex]?
 
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epkid08 said:
Does [tex]\det(B)[/tex] always equal [tex] \prod^n_{k=1}f_k(x)[/tex]?

Yes, if every entry below the diagonal is 0, then the determinant is simply the product of every entry in the diagonal, regardless of what is going on above the diagonal.
 
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It follows from the fact that det I = 1.
By eliminating entries above the pivots in your upper triangular matrix, it can be made into a diagonal matrix.

Since we also know that the determinant is a linear function of each row/column separately, we may factor out:
[tex]a_{i,j}[/tex] for i = j you get:

[tex] a_{11}a_{22}...a_{nn}I [/tex]

As mentioned, det I = 1 and what you get is a product of every entry in the diagonal, just as mr. Pengwuino said.

I am just learning this stuff myself, hope I have not written something crazy :)
 
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Or given that A is upper triangular, expand det(A) by the first diagonal:
[tex]\left|\begin{array}{cccc}a & b & ... & c \\ 0 & d & ... & e \\ ... & ... & ... & ... \\ 0 & 0 & ... & z\end{array}\right|= a\left|\begin{array}{ccc}d & ... & e \\ ... & ... & ... \\ 0 & 0 & z\end{array}\right|[/tex]
and expand that determinant by the first diagonal, etc.
 

FAQ: Why would f(x) not be included in the determinant?

Why is f(x) not included in the determinant?

The determinant is a mathematical function used to calculate the properties of a matrix. It is not designed to include any external functions, such as f(x). The determinant only operates on the elements within the matrix itself.

Does f(x) have any impact on the determinant?

No, f(x) does not have any impact on the determinant as it is not a part of the matrix and therefore not considered in the calculations. The determinant only considers the values in the matrix, not any external functions.

Can f(x) be included in the determinant if it is a linear function?

No, even if f(x) is a linear function, it cannot be included in the determinant. The determinant only operates on the elements within the matrix, which are typically numbers. Linear functions are not numbers and therefore cannot be included in the determinant.

Why is it important to not include f(x) in the determinant?

Including f(x) in the determinant could result in incorrect calculations and lead to invalid results. The determinant is specifically designed to operate on the elements within the matrix, and including any external functions could compromise the accuracy of the calculations.

Are there any other functions that cannot be included in the determinant?

Yes, any external functions, such as f(x), cannot be included in the determinant. Other examples include trigonometric functions, logarithmic functions, and exponential functions. The determinant only operates on the elements within the matrix, so any external functions cannot be included in the calculations.

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