Why x^2/(1+x^2) > u Near Infinity: Explained

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In summary, the statement $\lim\limits_{x \to \infty} \frac{x^2}{1+x^2}=1$ implies that for any $u<1$, the value of $\frac{x^2}{1+x^2}$ near $\pm \infty$ is always greater than $u$. This is because the limit is defined as the value that the function approaches as $x$ goes to infinity, and we can choose $\varepsilon$ to be any value less than $1$ to show that the function is always greater than $u$. Additionally, when finding the supremum of a function, we look for the lowest upper bound, which in this case is $1$.
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Hello! :)
Could you explain me why $lim_{x \to \pm \infty} \frac{x^2}{1+x^2}=1$ implies that $\forall u<1, \frac{x^2}{1+x^2}>u$ near to $\pm \infty$ ?
 
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evinda said:
Hello! :)
Could you explain me why $lim_{x \to \pm \infty} \frac{x^2}{1+x^2}=1$ implies that $\forall u<1, \frac{x^2}{1+x^2}>u$ near to $\pm \infty$ ?

The statement $\lim\limits_{x \to \infty} \frac{x^2}{1+x^2}=1$ is defined to mean that for any $\varepsilon>0$ there is a $N$ such that for any $x>N$:
$$\left|\frac{x^2}{1+x^2} - 1\right| < \varepsilon$$If we pick any $u<1$, we can select $\varepsilon = 1-u$, meaning that there is a $N$ such that for any $x>N$:
$$\left|\frac{x^2}{1+x^2} - 1\right| < 1-u$$
This implies that:
$$1 - \frac{x^2}{1+x^2} < 1-u$$
$$\frac{x^2}{1+x^2} > u$$
 
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I like Serena said:
The statement $\lim\limits_{x \to \infty} \frac{x^2}{1+x^2}=1$ is defined to mean that for any $\varepsilon>0$ there is a $N$ such that for any $x>N$:
$$\left|\frac{x^2}{1+x^2} - 1\right| < \varepsilon$$If we pick any $u<1$, we can select $\varepsilon = 1-u$, meaning that there is a $N$ such that for any $x>N$:
$$\left|\frac{x^2}{1+x^2} - 1\right| < 1-u$$
This implies that:
$$1 - \frac{x^2}{1+x^2} < 1-u$$
$$\frac{x^2}{1+x^2} > u$$

I understand.. :) Thank you very much!
 
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I like Serena said:
The statement $\lim\limits_{x \to \infty} \frac{x^2}{1+x^2}=1$ is defined to mean that for any $\varepsilon>0$ there is a $N$ such that for any $x>N$:
$$\left|\frac{x^2}{1+x^2} - 1\right| < \varepsilon$$If we pick any $u<1$, we can select $\varepsilon = 1-u$, meaning that there is a $N$ such that for any $x>N$:
$$\left|\frac{x^2}{1+x^2} - 1\right| < 1-u$$
This implies that:
$$1 - \frac{x^2}{1+x^2} < 1-u$$
$$\frac{x^2}{1+x^2} > u$$

I am looking again at the exercise at which I found this limit..

It is:

$$f,g: \mathbb{R} \to \mathbb{R}, f(x)=\frac{x^2}{1+x^2}, g(x)=0 \forall x$$

We want to calculate $\displaystyle{ |f-g|_{\mathbb{R}}= \sup \{ \frac{x^2}{1+x^2} , x \in \mathbb{R} \}}$

Why,in order to find this supremum,do we take $\displaystyle{ \lim_{x \to \pm \infty } \frac{x^2}{1+x^2}}$ ? (Thinking) (Thinking)
 
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evinda said:
We want to calculate $\displaystyle{ |f-g|_{\mathbb{R}}= \sup \{ \frac{x^2}{1+x^2} , x \in \mathbb{R} \}}$

Why,in order to find this supremum,do we take $\displaystyle{ \lim_{x \to \pm \infty } \frac{x^2}{1+x^2}}$ ? (Thinking) (Thinking)

To find the supremum we need to verify all local extrema, all boundary extrema, and all asymptotic extrema.
In this particular case the supremum is reached in an asymptote. (Nerd)
 
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I like Serena said:
To find the supremum we need to verify all local extrema, all boundary extrema, and all asymptotic extrema.
In this particular case the supremum is reached in an asymptote. (Nerd)

Why is it like that? (Thinking)

I thought that we find the monotonicity of $|f-g|$ and if it is increasing we take the maximum of the interval,and if it is decreasing the minimum.. (Sweating)
 
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evinda said:
Why is it like that? (Thinking)

I thought that we find the monotonicity of $|f-g|$ and if it is increasing we take the maximum of the interval,and if it is decreasing the minimum.. (Sweating)

What is the difference between a maximum and a supremum? (Wondering)

Where do you think the maximum is on the interval $(-\infty, +\infty)$? (Thinking)
 
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I like Serena said:
What is the difference between a maximum and a supremum? (Wondering)

Where do you think the maximum is on the interval $(-\infty, +\infty)$? (Thinking)

The supremum is $+\infty$ and the maximum is an $a \in (-\infty, +\infty)$,right? (Blush)
 
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evinda said:
The supremum is $+\infty$ and the maximum is an $a \in (-\infty, +\infty)$,right? (Blush)

Erm... no. (Worried)

The maximum is the highest value the function takes for some $a \in (-\infty, +\infty)$.
In this case there is no such value, since there is always a higher value.

The supremum is the lowest upper bound for the maximum.
In this case it is $1$.
 
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I like Serena said:
Erm... no. (Worried)

The maximum is the highest value the function takes for some $a \in (-\infty, +\infty)$.
In this case there is no such value, since there is always a higher value.

The supremum is the lowest upper bound for the maximum.
In this case it is $1$.

I understand! Thank you very much! (Smile)
 

FAQ: Why x^2/(1+x^2) > u Near Infinity: Explained

1. Why does x^2/(1+x^2) approach infinity as x approaches infinity?

As x gets larger and larger, the value of x^2 becomes much larger than 1. This means that the denominator, 1+x^2, becomes dominated by x^2. Since the numerator and denominator are both positive, as the denominator gets larger, the overall fraction gets closer and closer to infinity.

2. How does the limit of x^2/(1+x^2) as x approaches infinity help explain the behavior of the function near infinity?

The limit of a function at a certain point represents the value that the function approaches as the input value gets closer and closer to that point. In this case, as x approaches infinity, the limit of x^2/(1+x^2) is infinity, which means that the function is increasing without bound near infinity.

3. Why is it important to understand the behavior of the function near infinity?

Understanding the behavior of a function near infinity can help us make predictions and analyze the behavior of the function in a larger context. It can also help us understand the relationship between different functions and how they compare to each other.

4. How does the graph of x^2/(1+x^2) near infinity compare to the graph of x^2?

The graph of x^2/(1+x^2) near infinity approaches the graph of x^2 as x gets larger, but is always slightly above it. This is because the value of 1+x^2 becomes less and less significant compared to x^2 as x gets larger, so the fraction becomes closer to just x^2. However, it is important to note that the graph of x^2/(1+x^2) will never actually touch the graph of x^2, as the limit of the function is always slightly larger than the value of x^2.

5. Can the behavior of x^2/(1+x^2) near infinity be changed by altering the function in any way?

No, the behavior of x^2/(1+x^2) near infinity is determined by the properties of the function itself, specifically the degree of the numerator and denominator. As x gets larger, the behavior of the function will always approach infinity, regardless of any minor alterations to the function.

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