Work done by a battery to move charge

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem in which a dielectric is inserted between plates in a capacitor connected to a battery, causing the charge on the capacitor to increase. The question is how much work is done by the battery to add this charge. The given answer is QV, but there is a conceptual problem in understanding how the charge is moving across a potential difference. The solution involves thinking about the process happening in the battery, where there is an equilibrium between chemical and electric forces. When the dielectric is inserted, the voltage decreases between the plates, causing electrons to flow and decreasing the charge on the electrodes. This allows for new ions to be driven to the electrodes, and the net process results in charge being driven from the negative terminal
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Homework Statement


I'm working my way through MIT 8.02x, the intro E&M course, on EdX. In Homework 3/Problem 3, we insert a dielectric between plates in a capacitor that is connected to a battery supplying potential V. So the charge on the capacitor increases by Q. How much work is done by the battery to add that charge to the capacitor plates?

Homework Equations


The answer given is QV.

The Attempt at a Solution


I get the answer, but I'm having a conceptual problem. I understand how when charge Q moves across a potential difference V the work done is QV. But, in the situation above, how is the charge moving "across" a potential difference? The charges here remain inside conductors, and there can't be a potential difference inside conductors - except that of course there must be, because otherwise the charge wouldn't move from the battery to the capacitor. Can someone help me muddle through this?

I think my mind is still back in mechanics, where everything was force and motion. E&M is all about fields and potential energy, and I'm finding it difficult to shift my perspective.
 
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Think of the process happening in the battery when charging the capacitor. There is some charge piled on the electrodes of the battery in stationary case.The voltage across the capacitor plates is equal to V, the voltage of the battery.
Dynamic equilibrium is maintained at the interface between the electrode and electrolyte inside the battery: The chemical forces driving ions to the electrode or to the electrolyte are balanced by the electric forces.
When inserting the dielectric between the capacitor plates, the voltage decreases between the plates, and electrons flow from the negative terminal of the battery to the capacitor, and from the capacitor to the positive terminal, decreasing the charge on the electrodes, so allowing the chemical forces to drive new ions to the electrodes. At the end the charge which was given to the capacitor appears on the electrodes again and equilibrium is set up.
The net process is that some charge was driven from the negative terminal to the positive one by some chemical work. That work is equal to QV.
 
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Thanks, ehild. That was a very clear and helpful explanation.
 

FAQ: Work done by a battery to move charge

1. What is work done by a battery?

The work done by a battery refers to the energy that is transferred from the battery to a charge as it moves through a circuit. This energy is necessary for the charge to overcome any resistance in the circuit and complete its movement.

2. How is work done by a battery calculated?

The work done by a battery can be calculated by multiplying the voltage of the battery by the amount of charge that flows through the circuit. This can be expressed as W = QV, where W is work, Q is charge, and V is voltage.

3. What is the unit of measurement for work done by a battery?

The unit of measurement for work done by a battery is joules (J). This is the same unit used for measuring energy.

4. Can a battery do negative work?

Yes, a battery can do negative work. This occurs when the charge in the circuit is moving in the opposite direction of the electric field created by the battery. In this case, the battery is actually absorbing energy from the charge rather than transferring it.

5. How does the work done by a battery affect the battery's lifespan?

The work done by a battery does not directly affect its lifespan. However, the amount of work done by a battery is dependent on the amount of charge that flows through it. Therefore, the more work done by a battery, the more charge has been transferred and the shorter the battery's lifespan will be.

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