Write probability in terms of shape parameters of beta distribution

In summary, the conversation discusses the probability of a player winning a game based on the probability of winning each point and reaching a certain score. It is suggested to draw the probability from a beta distribution and adjust the formula accordingly. However, it is noted that the formula may not be exactly a beta-binomial distribution.
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Initially we have a probability of someone winning a game with certain scoring rules. The probability is of winning depends on the probability of winning a point, p, (which is assumed to be constant). The goal is to draw p from a beta distribution and change the formula accordingly
Assume that players A and B play a match where the probability that A will win each point is p, for B its 1-p and a player wins when he reach 11 points by a margin of >= 2The outcome of the match is specified by $$P(y|p, A_{wins})$$
If we know that A wins, his score is specified by B's score; he has necessarily scored max(11, y + 2) points

In the case of y >= 10 we have

$$ P(A_{wins} \cap y|p) = \binom{10 + 10}{10}p^{10}(1-p)^{10}
\cdot[2p(1-p)]^{y-10}\cdot p^ 2$$

The elements represents respectively:
- probability of reaching (10, 10)
- probability of reaching y after (10, 10)
- probability of A winning two times in a row

I would like to change the constant p assumption and draw p from a beta distribution.
The first part can be rewritten as as [beta-binomial](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-binomial_distribution) function:

$$ P(A_{wins} \cap y|\alpha, \beta) =\binom{10+10}{10}\frac{B(10+\alpha, 10+\beta)}{B(\alpha, \beta)} \cdot \space _{...} \cdot \space _{...}$$

The original formula can be simplified to

$$P(A_{wins} \cap y|p) = \binom{10 + 10}{10}p^{12}(1-p)^{10}
\cdot[2p(1-p)]^{y-10}$$

Is it correct to combine the first and third element as follows:

$$ P(A_{wins} \cap y|\alpha, \beta) =\binom{10+10}{10}\frac{B(12+\alpha, 10+\beta)}{B(\alpha, \beta)} \cdot \space _{...} $$
 
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hjam24 said:
TL;DR Summary: Initially we have a probability of someone winning a game with certain scoring rules. The probability is of winning depends on the probability of winning a point, p, (which is assumed to be constant). The goal is to draw p from a beta distribution and change the formula accordingly

Assume that players A and B play a match where the probability that A will win each point is p, for B its 1-p and a player wins when he reach 11 points by a margin of >= 2The outcome of the match is specified by $$P(y|p, A_{wins})$$
If we know that A wins, his score is specified by B's score; he has necessarily scored max(11, y + 2) points

In the case of y >= 10 we have

$$ P(A_{wins} \cap y|p) = \binom{10 + 10}{10}p^{10}(1-p)^{10}
\cdot[2p(1-p)]^{y-10}\cdot p^ 2$$

The elements represents respectively:
- probability of reaching (10, 10)
- probability of reaching y after (10, 10)
- probability of A winning two times in a row

I would like to change the constant p assumption and draw p from a beta distribution.
The first part can be rewritten as as [beta-binomial](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-binomial_distribution) function:

$$ P(A_{wins} \cap y|\alpha, \beta) =\binom{10+10}{10}\frac{B(10+\alpha, 10+\beta)}{B(\alpha, \beta)} \cdot \space _{...} \cdot \space _{...}$$

The original formula can be simplified to

$$P(A_{wins} \cap y|p) = \binom{10 + 10}{10}p^{12}(1-p)^{10}
\cdot[2p(1-p)]^{y-10}$$

Is it correct to combine the first and third element as follows:

$$ P(A_{wins} \cap y|\alpha, \beta) =\binom{10+10}{10}\frac{B(12+\alpha, 10+\beta)}{B(\alpha, \beta)} \cdot \space _{...} $$
It's not quite a beta-binomial distribution. However you can do a similar integral $$\int_0^1 P(A_{wins}\cap y|\alpha,\beta)Beta(p|\alpha,\beta)$$. Note also that the expression for P further simplifies before you do the integral.
 

FAQ: Write probability in terms of shape parameters of beta distribution

What is the Beta distribution?

The Beta distribution is a continuous probability distribution defined on the interval [0, 1], characterized by two positive shape parameters, often denoted as α (alpha) and β (beta). It is commonly used to model the distribution of probabilities and proportions.

How are the shape parameters α and β defined in the Beta distribution?

The shape parameters α and β in the Beta distribution determine the shape of the probability density function (PDF). Specifically, α controls the shape near 0, and β controls the shape near 1. Higher values of α and β result in a more peaked distribution, while lower values lead to a more spread-out distribution.

What is the probability density function (PDF) of the Beta distribution?

The probability density function (PDF) of the Beta distribution is given by:\[ f(x; \alpha, \beta) = \frac{x^{\alpha-1} (1-x)^{\beta-1}}{\text{B}(\alpha, \beta)} \]where \( \text{B}(\alpha, \beta) \) is the Beta function, which serves as a normalization constant to ensure the total probability integrates to 1.

How do you calculate the mean and variance of the Beta distribution?

The mean (expected value) and variance of the Beta distribution are functions of the shape parameters α and β. The mean is given by:\[ \text{E}(X) = \frac{\alpha}{\alpha + \beta} \]and the variance is given by:\[ \text{Var}(X) = \frac{\alpha \beta}{(\alpha + \beta)^2 (\alpha + \beta + 1)} \]

How do you interpret the shape parameters in practical applications?

In practical applications, the shape parameters α and β can be interpreted as prior counts in Bayesian statistics. For example, in a scenario where you are estimating a probability based on prior observations, α can represent the number of successes and β the number of failures. Adjusting these parameters allows you to incorporate prior knowledge or beliefs about the distribution of the probability.

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