Writing parameters in terms of given vectors

In summary, the equations relating four vectors a, b, c, and d can be solved using the cross product and the two real constants a and c.
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Homework Statement




Four 3-vectors a, b, c, and d are related by the equation
ax + by + cz = d;
where x, y, and z are real parameters. Using a suitable combination of scalar and vector
products, findd x, y, and z in terms of the vectors

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The Attempt at a Solution



So I tried to eliminate one vector at a time by doing the cross product of d and b etc so:

d^b=(a^b)x + (c^b)z and
d^c=(a^c)x + (b^c)y the other term cancelling as b^b=0

Therefore:
z=(d^b-(a^b)x)/(c^b)
y=(d^c-(a^c)x)/(b^c)

And substituting into the equation in the question everything seems to cancel out and I get:

xa=d, not sure if my approach is just entirely wrong. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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jj364 said:

Homework Statement

Four 3-vectors a, b, c, and d are related by the equation
ax + by + cz = d;
where x, y, and z are real parameters. Using a suitable combination of scalar and vector
products, findd x, y, and z in terms of the vectors

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



So I tried to eliminate one vector at a time by doing the cross product of d and b etc so:

d^b=(a^b)x + (c^b)z and
d^c=(a^c)x + (b^c)y the other term cancelling as b^b=0

Therefore:
z=(d^b-(a^b)x)/(c^b)
y=(d^c-(a^c)x)/(b^c)

And substituting into the equation in the question everything seems to cancel out and I get:

xa=d, not sure if my approach is just entirely wrong. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I find your choice of symbols and your notation very confusing and hard to read. Your choice to label a,b,c as vectors and x,y,z as real constants doesn't help, when common notation would be the other way. Neither does your notation for cross product help. So I'm going to change your notation and give you a hint that might help. Let's say you are given vectors ##\vec u,\, \vec v,\, \vec w,\, \vec z## and real numbers ##a,\, b,\, c## such that$$
a\vec u + b\vec v + c \vec w =\vec z$$Now consider what would happen if you dot ##\vec u \times \vec v## into both sides. See if that helps you solve for one of the constants.
 
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Hi, the notation used for defining vectors and parameters is just the one in the question and I didn't want to confuse the vector x with a cross product, so I used the other notation for cross product, nevertheless I accept that it was a bit confusing, apologies.

Ok I see this totally, makes perfect sense. Obviously 2 out of 3 of the terms would be reduced to zero with the triple scalar product leaving only the one without repeated vectors. I tried using a matrix method in the end but this was a bit useless without actually knowing what the vectors are. Thanks, I think this has totally solved it for me but I'll just give it a go and come back later. Thank you very much.
 

FAQ: Writing parameters in terms of given vectors

What are writing parameters in terms of given vectors?

Writing parameters in terms of given vectors refers to expressing a mathematical equation or function using vectors as variables. This allows for a more efficient and concise representation of the equation, especially when dealing with multiple variables.

2. How do you write parameters in terms of given vectors?

To write parameters in terms of given vectors, you first need to identify the variables in the equation that can be represented by vectors. Then, you can replace these variables with the corresponding vectors and manipulate the equation accordingly. The end result should be an equation solely in terms of vectors.

3. Why is it useful to write parameters in terms of given vectors?

Writing parameters in terms of given vectors can make the equation more compact and easier to work with, especially when dealing with complex equations. It also allows for a more geometric interpretation of the equation, which can aid in understanding and visualizing the problem.

4. Can any equation be written in terms of given vectors?

Not all equations can be written in terms of given vectors. This method is most useful for equations involving linear transformations and vector operations. Equations with non-linear functions may not be easily expressed in terms of vectors.

5. Are there any limitations to writing parameters in terms of given vectors?

One limitation of writing parameters in terms of given vectors is that it may not be suitable for all applications. In some cases, it may be more efficient to work with the original variables rather than converting them to vectors. Additionally, not all mathematical operations can be performed on vectors, so some equations may not be easily manipulated in this form.

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