Can a U(1) Generator be Normalized to SU(1) through Determinant Condition?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between U(1) and SU(1) and whether they are equal or not. It is clarified that SU(1) is the set of complex numbers with radius 1 and determinant 1, while U(1) is the set of complex numbers with radius 1. It is concluded that SU(1) is the trivial group of one element and they are not equal.
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How are these two related?
If you have a U(1) generator, can it just be normalized to SU(1)?
 
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Summary:: How are these two related?

If you have a U(1) generator, can it just be normalized to SU(1)?
The "S" stands for determinant = 1 or trace = 0 for the Lie algebras. Elements of ##U(1)## are all ##|z|=1##, so they have already determinat =1.
 
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The "S" stands for determinant = 1 or trace = 0 for the Lie algebras. Elements of ##U(1)## are all ##|z|=1##, so they have already determinat =1.
so could one say SU(1) = U(1)? If not, why not.
 
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Isn't SU(1) the trivial group of one element? I don't think they are equal. U(1) is the set of complex numbers with radius 1
 
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##SU(n)=\{A\in \mathbb{M}(n,\mathbb{C})\, : \,A\bar{A}^\tau =\bar{A}^\tau A = 1\, , \,\det(A)=1\}##

You are right, the determinant condition fixes the ##1##. I mistakenly thought ##\det = |\, . \,|##.
##SU(1)=\{A\in \mathbb{C}\, : \,A\bar{A}=1 \Longleftrightarrow |A|=1\, , \,\det(A)=A=1\}##
 

Related to Can a U(1) Generator be Normalized to SU(1) through Determinant Condition?

1. What is U(1)?

U(1) is a mathematical notation used to represent the unitary group of degree 1, which is a special group of matrices with complex entries that have a determinant of 1. It is commonly used in the field of quantum mechanics to describe symmetries and transformations.

2. What is SU(1)?

SU(1) is a mathematical notation used to represent the special unitary group of degree 1, which is a subgroup of the unitary group U(1). It consists of matrices with complex entries that have a determinant of 1 and a trace of 0. It is commonly used in the field of quantum mechanics to describe symmetries and transformations.

3. Are U(1) and SU(1) the same thing?

No, U(1) and SU(1) are not the same thing. While they both represent special groups of matrices with complex entries, SU(1) is a subgroup of U(1) and has additional restrictions on the determinant and trace of its matrices.

4. What is the significance of U(1) and SU(1) in science?

U(1) and SU(1) have significant applications in the field of quantum mechanics, where they are used to describe symmetries and transformations of particles and their interactions. They also have connections to other areas of physics, such as electromagnetism and the Standard Model of particle physics.

5. Can U(1) and SU(1) be applied to other fields besides quantum mechanics?

Yes, U(1) and SU(1) have applications in other fields such as computer science, where they are used in quantum computing and error correction codes. They also have connections to geometry and topology, making them useful in areas such as string theory and differential equations.

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