Flying Rods: A Fascinating Enigma

[KLscilevothma]

Flying Rods

Quote from the above website
These "things" move much to quickly to be seen with the naked eye, but they can be captured on film and seen when the film is played back in slow motion. They appear to have appendages along their torsos which move in wave like motion, and the torsos bend as they move. Measuring from inches to several feet in length, flying rods have been observed and filmed all over the world.

The rods appear to show some type of intelligence, as they will often dodge things that they would otherwise collide with. I personally cannot say I have seen rods, or taken footage of them. However, there was a day during this past summer where I was lying on my back at the beach where every so often I would "see" things flying over at extremely high velocities. At any other time I would just dismiss such instances as bugs flying past, or abberations in my vision, or any number of possible optical distortions that could occur, except that when I pointed them out to my friend, she saw them also. They could only be described as blurs crossing the sky, almost too quickly to be seen. I am not sure what we saw that day, but I only became aware of the blurs because I have been researching this phenomenon for quite awhile now. I have heard skeptics claim that the rods are nothing more than bugs or birds flying very close to the lens of the camera taking the picture, and that may well be true in some cases. But what Jose filmed that day at the cave, and a lot of what others have filmed all over the Earth -- No Way!

Where do the rods come from? Are they indigeneous to the planet Earth? I don't believe they are. The fact that they are so different from any other indigeneous lifeforms on the Earth lead me to believe that they may well be extraterrestrial. We are use to seeing aliens as being portrayed as two legged, two armed, two eyed human like beings. But the truth of the matter is, and again this is only my opinion, truly alien life should in my estimation be, well... alien! Are they intelligent, are they probes of some kind? I can't speculate that far.

The fact remains that no "dead" rods have ever been found. This leads me to believe that they are not from this planet. Of course there are those who theorize that the bodies disintegrate before reaching the ground. Who can say? To say the least, rods are a fascinating enigma. I have even heard of purported prehistoric cave paintings of rods. I will have to look into that further, as far as I am aware cavemen did not have camcorders in those days, so I would wonder about what they were truly drawing. Whatever rods are we may only wonder at for now, until they day that one of them can be studied closely.

I strongly believe that flying rods are evoluted on earth, not from the outer space as I don't think they can build any spaceships, nor pass through the atmosphere without getting burnt. However I'm wondering how come they can fly so fast that we can hardly see them with our naked eyes.

What do you think ?

 

[HazZy]

probably a hoax brought on by weird pictures of birds, then escalated by use of computer programs such as adobe photoshop . the photos on the site look completely fake, even i could doctor something to that nature up in around 10 minutes. however the possibility always exists that they may be real, i just really doubt it.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

I have seen some very interesting videos of this claim. One optical specialist says that we really need a film, rather than a video, in order to rule out certain types of fraud. On the other hand, some of the videos that I've seen would be no small task to fake. Another possibility that occurs to me is that we are really seeing something inside the lens, or perhaps something very close to the lens. But the one video from the cave jumpers [people parachuting into deep caves...I know, they sound like nuts already] in South America does seem to offer perspective. I think we see a "rod" fly behind a tree branch.

Another camera team inadvertently recorded a rod while doing another story on the Oregon Vortex. This “vortex” is the standard hill on a hill situation and is a friendly tourist hoax …Knott’s Berry Farm – an amusement park in California - has a vortex also. The circumstances for this particular video are not encouraging…considering that the camera team was promoting a false story in the first place. I feel this lends credence to the notion that many of these videos are faked. Of course, this crew could have been oblivious to all arguments and simply reported what they had recorded

 

[FZ+]

Hmm... I noticed a problem. If these rods are alleged to travel too quickly to be seen with the human eye, how come they appear on these photos without ANY motion blur? They must be using very short exposure films - which they would only be doing, if they were expecting to see the rods in the first place...
Hmm... I smell a rat...

 

[username]

I watched a documentary on 'rods' I could not stop laughing for ages you got to love em :)

 

[LURCH]

I'm convinced they are nothing more than bugs. Am I the only one who saw the news report from Bagdad, where these "flying rods" were buzzing all around the reporter? They were identicle to those in the photos, or any video you've seen on TV.

The rod shape with waves along the sides is what the camera makes of a bug flying by, flapping its wings.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Originally posted by username
I watched a documentary on 'rods' I could not stop laughing for ages you got to love em :)

Hello username,
I was wondering what you saw that convinced you that it was a hoax? I never saw anything convincing either way. To me the weird explanations are just silly, but whethter these alleged unboserved bugs exist or don't exist was to me not clear.

 

[username]

Originally posted by Ivan Seeking
Hello username,
I was wondering what you saw that convinced you that it was a hoax? I never saw anything convincing either way. To me the weird explanations are just silly, but whether these alleged unboserved bugs exist or don't exist was to me not clear.

It was one of those sensationalist documentaries very funny alien rods etc. Personally I think they are just normal bugs but I try to keep an open mind that they could be something else. This is something that needs more investigation.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Oh yes. All the garbage out there makes it nearly impossible to sort the wheat from the chaff. I don't get real worked up over this one but a couple of videos did look interesting. Still, interesting is the strongest word that I would use. I would have immediately assumed that we are seeing an optical effect such as the one suggested by Lurch, but the resolution and clarity appear too good. One problem with digital technology is the way that it will compensate given poor focus or highly contrasted lighting.

 

[russ_watters]

Originally posted by Ivan Seeking
Hello username,
I was wondering what you saw that convinced you that it was a hoax? I never saw anything convincing either way. To me the weird explanations are just silly, but whethter these alleged unboserved bugs exist or don't exist was to me not clear.

Extrordinary claims require extrordinary evidence. If it seems to good (weird) to be true, it probably is. This is one of those things that is just too bizarre (not to mention unconfirmed) to be true. Sometimes though, they just "smell" like a hoax. You need to learn to smell a hoax.

All the garbage out there makes it nearly impossible to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Not at all. The wheat is obvious. Everyting else (the vast majority) is chaff.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Originally posted by russ_watters
Extrordinary claims require extrordinary evidence. If it seems to good (weird) to be true, it probably is. This is one of those things that is just too bizarre (not to mention unconfirmed) to be true. Sometimes though, they just "smell" like a hoax. You need to learn to smell a hoax. Not at all. The wheat is obvious. Everyting else (the vast majority) is chaff.

I surely see nothing compelling here, but I think I smell an optical or digital effect rather than a hoax. The bit that I've seen on this implies that quite a few people are recording these alleged anomalies, but I really know little about it. I still tend to think that Lurch could have the right idea.

When it comes to the wheat and the chaff however, I maintain that the truth is the most elusive thing of all.

 

[LURCH]

I can think of one thing that would clinch it (for most peolpe). If these are ordinary bugs, then somewhere out there, in all the hours of moving footage of these things, there ought to be a video in which one of them bumps into a rock climber, or a window, or something. At the moment where the "rod's" forward progress is halted, it should cease to be a rod and take on the appearance of an ordinary insect.

 

[KLscilevothma]

Orginally posted by LURCH
The rod shape with waves along the sides is what the camera makes of a bug flying by, flapping its wings.

If they are really bugs that we have identified, and we know their characteristics that they can fly at a very high speed, why don't people tell us what they are? Besides, this "rods" issue has been brought up for quite a long time, if there are some enthusiasts out there, why couldn't they draw up conclusions after their long term investigation? Moreover, I think biologists have never shown interests on "rods".

I do believe there are odd creatures on earth, perhaps "rods" is one of them if they aren't created by hoaxers.

 

[russ_watters]

Originally posted by Ivan Seeking
I surely see nothing compelling here, but I think I smell an optical or digital effect rather than a hoax. The bit that I've seen on this implies that quite a few people are recording these alleged anomalies, but I really know little about it. I still tend to think that Lurch could have the right idea.

When it comes to the wheat and the chaff however, I maintain that the truth is the most elusive thing of all.

Quite a few people take pictures of lens flares and say they are spaceships too. Whether something is a mistake or a hoax is simply a question of motive. Its all still chaff.

And yes, the truth can be elusive - but that means you should be skeptical of EVERYTHING. Most people tend to do the opposite and accept everything. Thats just plain gullibility.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Originally posted by russ_watters
Quite a few people take pictures of lens flares and say they are spaceships too. Whether something is a mistake or a hoax is simply a question of motive. Its all still chaff.

Crooked people tell lies and honest people make mistakes. No argument from me.

And yes, the truth can be elusive - but that means you should be skeptical of EVERYTHING. Most people tend to do the opposite and accept everything. Thats just plain gullibility.

I agree. Beliefs and needs do get in the way. Still, skepticism can also be taken to extremes.

One funny example that comes to mind is an old Candid Camera skit - from the 60s or 70s. I think this demonstrates an important point. [This is not really a "rods" argument but oh well] The setup was in a park. The victim happens along and sits on a park bench. In front of the bench is a fake tree trunk - about 6 feet of a large diameter trunk with rest of the tree removed. To the victim this is just an old tree. In reality someone is hiding inside of this false trunk. The gag was that the tree moves whenever the victim is not looking. Things proceeded pretty much as expected... the double takes followed by frowns, head scratches, shocked stares, the works. Last is the guy who happens to look up and see the tree move at just the right time. This gentleman looked right at the tree, saw it move, stared blankly for a moment in disbelief, and then convinced himself that he had not seen the tree move.

Gullibility comes in two flavors.

If while all of those around you clamour with panic and fear that the sky is falling, you sit quietly, calm and collected, and with your composer in tact, then perhaps they know something you don't.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Originally posted by russ_watters
Its all still chaff.

This however is a faith argument that cannot be defended. Have you seen it all? How much research have you done?

 

[russ_watters]

Originally posted by Ivan Seeking
This however is a faith argument that cannot be defended. Have you seen it all? How much research have you done?

I think you misunderstood. My point was that mistakes and hoaxes are different from each other in the motivation of the person making the claims, but are both still chaff.

 

[BoulderHead]

Spare me the rods and let’s spoil the children…

And now for something truly irrelevant as I attempt to put the missing text back into their comments;

These "things" move much to quickly to be seen with the naked eye, but they can be captured on 16 frame per second? film and seen just as clear as a bell when the film is played back in slow motion following doctoring. They appear to have appendages along their headless torsos which move in wave like motion, and the torsos bend as they move and as they move they bend and move in wave like bending motion, moving. Measuring from inches to several pixels, someone had no doubt doctored an amount of film equal to at least five feet in length, flying rods and pink, winged pigs have been observed and filmed all over the world.

The rods appear to show some type of intelligence similar to political party spokespeople, as they will often dodge things such as any notion of credibility that they would otherwise collide with. I personally cannot say I have seen rods because my belly protrudes too far, or taken footage of them. However, there was a day during this past summer where I was lying on my back at the beach where every so often I would "see" things flying over at extremely high velocities before landing at the airport. At any other time I would just dismiss such instances as bugs, or helicopters flying past, or abberations in my vision, or any number of possible optical distortions that could occur after taking my usual dose Belladonna seeds, except that when I pointed them out to my friend, she saw them also and quickly pulled her top back up. They could only be described as blurs crossing the sky, almost too quickly to be seen. I am not sure what we saw that day, but I only became aware of the blurs because I have been fantasizing about researching this phenomenon for quite awhile now. I have heard skeptics claim that the rods are nothing more than bugs or birds flying very close to the lens of the camera taking the picture, and that may well be true in some cases, though in other cases it is clearly an act of deception. But what Jose filmed that day at the cave, and a lot of what others have filmed all over the Earth is much too rated for a family oriented program to air-- No Way would I want you to see me going off half-cocked again!

The conclusion tonight at 10:00

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Originally posted by russ_watters
I think you misunderstood. My point was that mistakes and hoaxes are different from each other in the motivation of the person making the claims, but are both still chaff.

You are correct. Sorry. I will stand down from the pulpit.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Originally posted by BoulderHead
And now for something truly irrelevant as I attempt to put the missing text back into their comments;

I'm just guessing here but I'm thinking you're not convinced.

 

[FZ+]

And now for something truly irrelevant as I attempt to put the missing text back into their comments;

*applause*

 

[BoulderHead]

Originally posted by FZ+
*applause*

I had another idea and altered the last sentence.

Originally posted by Ivan Seeking;
I'm just guessing here but I'm thinking you're not convinced.

Good guess!
I do, however, very much enjoy looking at the photos of these sort of things. I'm just skeptical is all.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Originally posted by BoulderHead
I had another idea and altered the last sentence.

Good guess!
I do, however, very much enjoy looking at the photos of these sort of things. I'm just skeptical is all.

Ya... I had pretty much filed this under inconsequential. Be it hoaxed, or due to some other technical anomaly, or even if it be a new bug, since I am not an entomologists [with all due respect], big deal. I think we find new bugs every day. It would be strange that we don’t see these alleged winged beasties, but this point seems to yield the greatest value of the WOW coefficient. In a way, I feel the same about Loch Ness and a few other things. If true, a Loch Ness beast would a real surprise scientifically, but if there, and it’s not looking good for the believers, it is probably a remnant of the dinosaur age -like alligators, sharks, the coelacanth and others. Many real beasts were once thought by many to be mythical.
We tend to assign an almost mystical quality to mythical beasts, when often they were real but just another beast. As a counter example, I think that the existence of gorillas truly surprised and shocked many scientists [academicians] and non-scientists alike.

 

[BoulderHead]

I thought these were rather interesting;

http://www.realufos.com/wtc.shtml

http://www.ufocasebook.com/wtcvideo.html

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Originally posted by BoulderHead
http://www.realufos.com/wtc.shtml

http://www.ufocasebook.com/wtcvideo.html

I had seen this used as a commercial and assumed of course that it was just Hollywood. Later, I saw that a news channel released this story as if real. I assumed that they had never seen the commercial and were simply duped. Then a friend of mine sent the video and asked what I thought. I have always assumed that this was not a genuine video. I must look again it seems. [?]

 

[BoulderHead]

I don't know what's up with that stuff. I once had another link that showed similar UFO's the same day and time that the planes crashed into the World Trade Center buildings. I no longer have that link but did save the video files to my hard drive.
Now, If I had made my own tapes of the broadcasts on 9/11 I could go back and look for the UFO's. Finding them on my own tapes would lend support that something might have been going on, but I never made any recordings to examine. I haven't really looked hard into the matter, to be honest.

 

[megashawn]

i remember bringing up this rods subject on pf2, and someone gave me an idea which seems pretty true. If they exist, seems like we would have found a dead one atleast.

 

[BoulderHead]

Originally posted by megashawn
i remember bringing up this rods subject on pf2, and someone gave me an idea which seems pretty true. If they exist, seems like we would have found a dead one atleast.

Did you have any good links to photos that you could give us? I enjoy looking at such things, whether they are real or not.

 

[russ_watters]

Originally posted by megashawn
i remember bringing up this rods subject on pf2, and someone gave me an idea which seems pretty true. If they exist, seems like we would have found a dead one atleast.

Since they are made of pure energy, when they die they simply dissipate.

 

[megashawn]

http://www.alhandelman.com/alien.htm

I believe this is the page that I found the link for "roswell rods" sometime ago.

http://www.roswellrods.com/

Made of pure energy? What exactly is "pure energy"? Has there ever been any of this "pure energy" measured or recorded, or are rods God's angels?

 

[russ_watters]

Originally posted by megashawn
http://www.alhandelman.com/alien.htm

I believe this is the page that I found the link for "roswell rods" sometime ago.

http://www.roswellrods.com/

Made of pure energy? What exactly is "pure energy"? Has there ever been any of this "pure energy" measured or recorded, or are rods God's angels?

"pure energy" is something that has energy but not matter - like light.

BTW, I didn't use any , , , or , but I assumed by now people would understand I was being sarcastic.

 

[ranyart]

FRauDS

Here we go!, my cousin came over to my house one night, we were listening to some music and he was glancing at the TV guide(so much for my music!), anyway he suddenly aks if he could watch this documentry that had just started:R.O.DOS.

I started watching, and first immpression I was quite amazed! The video clearly shows some entity performing about 8Gs as if it had no connection to this Earthly World.

Anyway I slapped a video into the VP and pressed Record, for further inspection, we watched the video again, and it became quite clear these things were on people's video's, just what they were is another thing, the cross section of people from different parts of the world made the whole thing more plausable, as in each separate video the Rods were identical.

Ok, after my cousin had left,(he left claiming he was going to take up cave diving just so he could perform some major air-obatics), anyway I put the video on again so I could try and find any cool person in the video such as editing glitches and so on, I found none.

The following day my cousin retuned demanding that I play the video again for him(he tends to need little convincing that there is alien life amongst us). This time I started to devulge what I had come to the conclusion what R.O.D.S were as we watched, I started to explain that what all the video's had in common, were VIDEO-TAPE. Then I explained that video cassette manufacturer's could have encoded tapes with the R.O.D.S as part of a 'security trace' trying to trace the video cassettes that 'pirateers', we debated this and conclude highly unlikley.

We then moved on to some aspect of the video camera themselves, as this seems to be a quite recent happenning, I suggested some sort of aspect-ratio-auto-zoom-focus-anti-skip, data immbedded into the film/tape's, as a gauge for the camera's hardware?

Any way, these are just some of the clues that led us to solve the mystery of R.O.D.S!..IF you just take a look at some hand-held camera's from recent years, I am sure you too will see what just the rods are .

 

[Ivan Seeking]

A Rod Story?

Here's either something or nothing:

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/10272002_bb_ufo.html

 

[robinson]

I can't believe this was never resolved. Rods are bugs. Or other moving objects, elongated by the camera.

http://www.amsky.com/ufos/rods/

 

[Ivan Seeking]

There is a debunking of this somewhere. It must be an off-topic blurb in another thread, but you are correct; they are bugs.

Note that this thread is over three years old. Since then this has all been explained or debunked so I am closing the thread.