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In physics, the center of mass of a distribution of mass in space (sometimes referred to as the balance point) is the unique point where the weighted relative position of the distributed mass sums to zero. This is the point to which a force may be applied to cause a linear acceleration without an angular acceleration. Calculations in mechanics are often simplified when formulated with respect to the center of mass. It is a hypothetical point where the entire mass of an object may be assumed to be concentrated to visualise its motion. In other words, the center of mass is the particle equivalent of a given object for application of Newton's laws of motion.
In the case of a single rigid body, the center of mass is fixed in relation to the body, and if the body has uniform density, it will be located at the centroid. The center of mass may be located outside the physical body, as is sometimes the case for hollow or open-shaped objects, such as a horseshoe. In the case of a distribution of separate bodies, such as the planets of the Solar System, the center of mass may not correspond to the position of any individual member of the system.
The center of mass is a useful reference point for calculations in mechanics that involve masses distributed in space, such as the linear and angular momentum of planetary bodies and rigid body dynamics. In orbital mechanics, the equations of motion of planets are formulated as point masses located at the centers of mass. The center of mass frame is an inertial frame in which the center of mass of a system is at rest with respect to the origin of the coordinate system.

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  1. P

    Center of Force, Generalized Potential

    The problem states that a particle moves in a plane under the influence of the following central force: F = \frac{1}{r^2}\Big(1 - \frac{\dot{r}^2 - 2\ddot{r}r}{c^2}\Big) and I am asked to find the generalized potential that results in such a force. Goldstein gives the following equation...
  2. M

    What Happens at the Center of a Black Hole?

    i was bored and my mind wandered. a question popped up and it got me interested in what others thought who are more informed than me: since black hole is a theoretical construct (and hence can be geometrically perfect), what happens at the exact center of it. with uniform (assumed) density...
  3. J

    Why would we weigh less at earth's center?

    I don't understand why we would weigh less at Earth's center(as opposed to sea level). Looking around the net, I have seen different approaches to this problem, each with different solutions. According to Newton's universal law of gravitation: F= Gm1m2/r2 If this is the case, then as...
  4. M

    Center of mass for two small particles

    1. Two small particles of mass m1 and mass m2 attract each other with a force that varies with the inverse cube of their separation. At time t0 , m1 has velocity v directed towards m2 , which is at rest a distance d away. At time t1 , the particles collide. How far does m1 travel in the time...
  5. Nathanael

    Regions; "Each point of the set is the center of a circle "

    "A set in the plane is called a region if it satisfies the following two conditions: 1. Each point of the set is the center of a circle whose entire enterior consists of points of the set. 2. Every two points of the set can be joined by a curve which consists entirely of points of the set."...
  6. J

    Gravity at the center of the Earth

    Imagine that you could dig a hole up to the very center of the Earth and sit there. What will you experience? Complete weightlessness or the experience of being torn apart in every direction?
  7. C

    The potential at the center of the sphere

    Homework Statement the electric field at the surface of a charged, solid, copper sphere with radius 0.160m is 3600N/C , directed toward the center of the sphere. what is the potential at the center of the sphere, if we take the potential to be zero infinitely far from the sphere...
  8. B

    Deflection of fixed beam with point load at center

    i have a 20.5ft c3x5 steel channel with a point load at the exact center and i wanted to determine its maximum deflection. the point load is 921.86lbs, and moment of inertia is 1.86in^4. modulus of E= 30,000,000psi
  9. A

    Electric field strength at the center of an equilateral triangle

    Homework Statement 3 rods each of length 1 meter form an equilateral triangle. Two rods have a uniform charge distribution of 8\times 10^{-6} C and the third of -8\times 10^{-6} C. What is the electric field strength at the center of an equilateral triangle Homework Equations \vec{E} =...
  10. ShayanJ

    Charged particle on a sphere with magnetic dipole at its center

    I just wanted something to play with so I thought of this problem and solved it but now I have questions about it. Consider a charged particle with charge q and mass \mu which is constrained to move on the surface of a sphere of radius R. There is a magnetic dipole with moment \vec m=m \hat z...
  11. S

    MHB Find the Radius and Center of a Circle

    Can someone show me how to resolve this question? A particular circle in the standard (x,y) coordinate plane has an equation of (x − 5)2 + y2 = 38. What are the radius of the circle, in coordinate units, and the coordinates of the center of the circle? radius center F. √38 ( 5,0) G. 19 ( 5,0)...
  12. J

    Solar Gravity: Is There Good Data?

    Think about this hypothesis: Solar activity changes the distribution of mass on the sun. This change could move the center of mass of the sun, unless the distribution were symmetric. This would move the center of mass away from the center of rotation. This would cause a fluctuation in the...
  13. J

    Center of Factor Group Is Trivial Subgroup

    Homework Statement Prove that the center of the factor group G/Z(G) is the trivial subgroup ({e}). Homework Equations Z(G) = {elements a in G|ax=xa for all elements x in G} The Attempt at a Solution I need to prove G is abelian, because G/Z(G) is cyclic, right? Then I can say that...
  14. M

    Finding the Center and Radius of Circles for Scientists

    Hi, how do I find the center and radius from these equations? The 2 equations represent 2 different circles, by the way. I need to draw 2 circles.
  15. A

    MHB How can I find the center and radius of a circle from two different equations?

    Hi, how do I find the center and radius from these equations? The 2 equations represent 2 different circles, by the way.
  16. M

    Electric Field at Center of Equilateral Triangle

    Consider an equilateral triangle of side 15.6 cm. A charge of +2.0uc is placed at one vertex and charges of -4.0C uc each are placed at the other two, as shown in the diagram to the right. Determine the electric field at the centre of the triangle ANgle= 60 sides--> d1= d2=d3=0.156m...
  17. hagobarcos

    Center of Mas of a planar Lamina

    Homework Statement Find the center of mass of a planar lamina, in the form of a triangle with vertices (0,0),(0,a),(a,a), if ρ=k Homework Equations m = ∫∫f dA xbar = My/m ybar = Mx/m The Attempt at a Solution mass = ka²/2 Mx = ∫∫yk dy dx My = ∫∫xk dy dx...
  18. I

    B field at Center of Conducting Square

    Hi there I am just really confused as to how they arrived at the answer to this problem. I attached a picture of the entire question and the solution. Homework Statement Please see attached file. Homework Equations Biot Savart Law for Magnetism of a Wire where the length of wire is much...
  19. marmstrong941

    Black Holes in the center of galaxies

    Is it still true that most if not all galaxies have at their center a Black Hole? And that the estimated gravity is about 10% of the total mass galaxies. And is it still true that all stars or 99 % of them are moving out and a way from the black hole. I was just wondering if these black holes...
  20. N

    Value of g at the center of the earth

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  21. G

    Could dropping a massive plate thru the center of a tornado kill it?

    I was googling to see if a bomb could disrupt a tornado and I came across this thread here ( https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=692975 ) and I saw this graphic posted there (see attached thumbnail below). And it got me to wondering, if you made a giant, massive, strong metal plate...
  22. H

    Exploring Time and Space in a Supermassive Hollow Sphere

    Suppose there were a supermassive, superdense hollow sphere. Inside of the sphere, would time move more slowly relative to outside? Would objects inside the sphere be contracted relative to outside? I did this calculation once about the center of a neutron star. (Of course, it isn't...
  23. Abishek

    Center of Gravity - Laws and Explaination

    This is my first thread, and I am excited to post it.:biggrin: My question is that, did any Scientists do any research about Center of Gravity and formulated any laws or gave explanation to it's fundamental behavior? If so, then have they considered the Center of Gravity of liquids and...
  24. R

    Why does A black hole need a massive center

    Was thinking about this why is it a requirement that the center of a black hole be a singularity? If the event horizon contained all the mass of a black hole would it still not have the same effect on it's surroundings? Why could it not be similar to a a crystal where as each molecular link or...
  25. H

    The role of center of mass in motions

    Consider the motion of a system composed of a rigid bar and a rigid ring attached to it as is shown in the attached figure.The rigid system is rotating around the point O. Why we can not treat this motion as rotational motion of "the center of mass"? Namely why we can not get the correct result...
  26. V

    How Are Distances from the Center of Mass Determined in Classical Mechanics?

    I have attached the image as an attachment Homework Statement I am reading a classical mechanics textbook and I don't understand how they found that. r1' = -\frac{m_{2}}{m_{1}+m_{2}}r and r2' = \frac{m_{1}}{m_{1}+m_{2}}r r1' is the vector from the center of mass R to m1 and...
  27. A

    Uniform, semicircular rod of radius R and mass m in the center

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  28. stevebd1

    Could Supermassive Black Holes At The Center Of Galaxies Be Wormholes?

    Not sure how speculative this is but thought it would be of interest- http://www.iflscience.com/space/could-supermassive-black-holes-center-galaxies-be-wormholes and the related paper- http://arxiv.org/abs/1405.1883v1 Distinguishing black holes and wormholes with orbiting hot spots by...
  29. E

    Force accelerates center of mass same regardless of where applied?

    Is it true that the center of mass of an object will be accelerated with the same direction and magnitude from the same force no matter if the force is applied to the center of the object or to the edge of the object? I have heard some people say this is not true because some of the "force"...
  30. V

    Torque and Center of Gravity in Rotating Objects

    Hi ! 2 Objects turn at constant rotational velocity ω rd/s around axis noted "axis" on image (ω clockwise). An external system not drawn force the study to turn at ω rd/s if necessary. From blue object, forces F1 and F2 are applied to orange object. F1 = -F2 in vector. I would like to know if...
  31. D

    Center of mass for grav. potential (please reply quickly)

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  32. T

    Two stars orbiting a common center

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  33. H

    How can I determine a vehicle's center of gravity using Euler's equations?

    Homework Statement I need to find a vehicles center of gravityHomework Equations I'm thinking euler's equations but I am new to them.The Attempt at a Solution I'm designing a rig as part of a project that would allow a race car to be suspended from a lift on 4 ropes and then allow to move in on...
  34. A

    Finding the Center of Mass of a pendulum

    Homework Statement Assuming that the combined mass of the balls is greater than the combined mass of the cords, but that the cords do have some mass, where is the center of mass for the system shown below? Homework Equations None The Attempt at a Solution I tried approaching...
  35. A

    What is the concept of center of mass and how is it related to potential energy?

    Homework Statement Image 1 Shows both system 1 and system 2 at rest Images 2 and 3 show answer choices: Given M2 > M1, which of the following pendulum systems has the GREATEST change in potential energy from a state of rest? Passage says: The greatest Potential energy is always associated...
  36. lonewolf219

    Finding the magnetic field at center of a square loop

    My textbook says that at the center of a square conducting wire of length ω, the magnetic field is: B=\sqrt{2}μ_{0}I/(\piR) I am not sure how to calculate this...? Because the Biot Savart law has a closed loop integral, we do not use piecewise addition of line integrals to find the...
  37. S

    How do you find the center axis of a damped oscillation

    Hello! I have data of a damped oscillation (the movement on Y as it dies down in time). Imagine for example a ball that is hanging from a spring and it keeps bouncing up and down under the spring until it stops. The problem is I do not know how to find the axis around which the oscillation...
  38. N

    Internal and center of mass energies

    Homework Statement An object with kinetic energy K explodes into two pieces, each of which moves with twice the speed of the original object. Compare the internal and center-of-mass energies after the explosion. The Attempt at a Solution Let K1 be the kinetic energy of the main...
  39. S

    Center of gravity of a portion of cylinder

    Attachments Figure # 1 Figure # 2 reproduced from http://www.lmnoeng.com/Volume/InclinedCyl.htmhttp://www.lmnoeng.com/Volume/InclinedCyl.htm Description The blue is the mass inside a cylinder. In steady condition, I would want to know where its Center of gravity point shall be from either of...
  40. M

    Changing center point of a cylinder

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  41. M

    Question on finding moment of inertia about the center of mass

    So I have a question. I (moment of inertia) is basically mr^2 right? And r is supposed to be the distance from the axis of rotation. When the axis of rotation is directly through the center of mass, how is there Icm (moment of inertia about the center of mass). It's confusing to me, because so...
  42. M

    Torque Equilibrium to find center of mass.

    Homework Statement 1. A non-uniform beam with a mass of 85kg has a length of 6.2m and is attached to a wall and supported at an angle of 28 degrees from the wall by a horizontal rope which is attached to the wall above the beam . The tension in the rope is found to be 310N. How far from the...
  43. K

    Why Does a Car's Front Lift When Accelerating?

    I got one multiple choice on our exam incorrect, and I was wondering exactly why this answer is correct: When you accelerate your car, the front of the car lifts up slightly. Or when you brake, the front dips down. The primary reason is because the A) center of mass of the car and its...
  44. S

    Would The Position of the Center of Mass Change Position?

    Take a uniform density bar in space for example. Would the center of mass move if the bar was struck at the very tip perpendicularly by some weight? If so, please explain.
  45. C

    Kinetic Moment about the center of gravity

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  46. chongkuan123

    Finding Center of Mass of a Nonuniform Bar

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  47. J

    Derive conservation of center of mass position

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  48. H

    Proving the Uniqueness of Center of Momentum Frame

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  49. V

    Magnetic field at the center of a semi-circle

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  50. N

    Electric field strength at the center of semicircle

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