Curvature Definition and 920 Threads

In mathematics, curvature is any of several strongly related concepts in geometry. Intuitively, the curvature is the amount by which a curve deviates from being a straight line, or a surface deviates from being a plane.
For curves, the canonical example is that of a circle, which has a curvature equal to the reciprocal of its radius. Smaller circles bend more sharply, and hence have higher curvature. The curvature at a point of a differentiable curve is the curvature of its osculating circle, that is the circle that best approximates the curve near this point. The curvature of a straight line is zero. In contrast to the tangent, which is a vector quantity, the curvature at a point is typically a scalar quantity, that is, it is expressed by a single real number.
For surfaces (and, more generally for higher-dimensional manifolds), that are embedded in a Euclidean space, the concept of curvature is more complex, as it depends on the choice of a direction on the surface or manifold. This leads to the concepts of maximal curvature, minimal curvature, and mean curvature.
For Riemannian manifolds (of dimension at least two) that are not necessarily embedded in a Euclidean space, one can define the curvature intrinsically, that is without referring to an external space. See Curvature of Riemannian manifolds for the definition, which is done in terms of lengths of curves traced on the manifold, and expressed, using linear algebra, by the Riemann curvature tensor.

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  1. J

    Reflection in a mirror of negative curvature

    How Does Reflection Behave In Arbitrary Surfaces Hi I am interested to know how reflection would behave in a mirror on a surface of negative [gaussian] curvature. I tried googleing it and found nothing useful Thanks Edit: Reflection in a sphere behaves like inversion in a sphere...
  2. zonde

    Backreaction of accelerated motion on spacetime curvature

    Curvature of spacetime tells us how the body is moving when it moves inertially. But if the body is not moving inertially does it causes backreaction by affecting spacetime curvature? Say if we compare body that is in free fall toward planet with body that is at rest on the surface of planet.
  3. R

    Spherical mirror radius of curvature

    Homework Statement A dentist uses a spherical mirror to examine a tooth. The tooth is 1.13 cm in front of the mirror, and the image is formed 10.8 cm behind the mirror. Determine the mirror's radius of curvature. Homework Equations 1/p+1/q=1/f f=R/2 The Attempt at a Solution...
  4. D

    The Curvature of Space and Acceleration Confusion

    Like many of these forum dwellers, I've been reading the Elegant Universe and I've hit a fit of confusion. So I've got a couple of questions. In the book, it is explained that accelerated motion results in the warping of space and time (I'm thinking specifically of his example of the rigidly...
  5. T

    Curvature of along a streamline

    Hey Guys/Girls and thanks in advance Not quite sure this is in the correct forum since its not a homework question, more private study and curiosity lolz! Im trying to evaluate the curvature along the streamline within a hydrodynamic potential field (fluid flow). I have no issue calculating...
  6. T

    Exploring Spacetime Curvature: The Role of Mass and Gravitational Force

    1) Is it always a given that the spacetime curvature will be flat in a region in which there is no mass? 2) Therefore is the curvature directly dependent on the mass in a particular region? 3) Also, what exactly is included in the term "mass"? 4) If there are no matter fields to curve...
  7. W

    Trying to understand spacetime curvature

    I'm familiar with space and time together being 4 dimensions and that mass causes a curvature in this spacetime. When I consider a line that is curved, I can view the curvature because the line is drawn on a 2D surface (plane). So, it seems an additional dimension is required for a...
  8. Islam Hassan

    Gravitons vs Attraction Due to Curvature of Spacetime

    If one day gravitons are discovered, would their action be complementary to the gravitational attraction due to curved spacetime? Can gravity arise from both curved spacetime and exchange of gravitons? IH
  9. TrickyDicky

    Schwarzschild radius and curvature

    In the Schwarzschild spacetime setting we have a vacuum solution of the Einstein field equations, that is an idealized universe without any matter at the geodesics that are solutions of the equations. This spacetime has however a curvature in both the temporal and spatial component that comes...
  10. G

    Space-Time Curvature: A New Perspective on Dark Matter?

    Could it be possible that space-time curvature is not caused by matter but is an inherent characteristic of space-time? Wouldn't this explain dark matter?
  11. C

    Curvature of space/time question/problem

    While watching a video on youtube about space/time, it explained space/time like a fabric with a ball on it. Rolling another ball past this first ball caused the second ball to curve. I get that part. then they said that Arthur Eddington went to test general relativity by photographing a...
  12. D

    Radius of curvature of a bimetallic strip

    Homework Statement I need to calculate the radius of curvature of a bimetallic strip when the two strips are subjected to different temperatures. in the problem, the two metals themselves are in different temperatures. One at 180°C, other at 160°C. Anyone with good solid mechanics knowledge...
  13. M

    Gaussian curvature for a given metric

    Homework Statement Assume that we have a metric like: ds^{2}=f dr^{2}+ g d\theta^{2}+ h d\varphi^{2} where r,\theta , \varphi are spherical coordinates. f,g and h are some functions of r and theta but not phi. Homework Equations How can I calculate Gaussian curvature in r-theta...
  14. P

    Orthonormal basis => vanishing Riemann curvature tensor

    Hey! If a (pseudo) Riemannian manifold has an orthonormal basis, does it mean that Riemann curvature tensor vanishes? Orthonormal basis means that the metric tensor is of the form (g_{\alpha\beta}) = \text{diag}(-1,+1,+1,+1) what causes Christoffel symbols to vanish and puts Riemann...
  15. Z

    Train Paradox: Force & Curvature Explained

    I am thinking about train paradox here. The only difference between the passenger and the person waiting at the station is that the passenger is experiencing a force. They have exactly the same relative velocity and relative acceleration. The difference of this paradox from twin paradox is that...
  16. TrickyDicky

    Understanding curvature and dimensions

    When explaining the concept of spacetime curvature many popular science books (but I've also seen it mentioned in some textbooks) recur to the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic curvature, and how in a 2-D world with ants or bugs that are two dimensional, they would not be able to detect...
  17. L

    Positive Gauss Curvature Metric: Calculation & Analysis

    Given is a surface embedded in Euclidean 3 space whose Gauss curvature is everywhere positive. Its metric is <Xu,Xu> = E <Xu,Xv> = F <Xv,Xv> = G for an arbitrary coordinate neighborhood on the surface. The principal curvatures determine a new metric. In principal coordinates this new...
  18. A

    Same curvature in spline but different slope

    hi, we have a spline which consists of two splines,is it possible the two splines have the same curvature but different slopes?
  19. J

    Drying rate depending on curvature?

    hi all =D i have a question about evaporation rate depending on curvature. say a droplet of water is placed on a curved surface- one concave, one convex but with the same radius of curvature. will the evaporation rate be different?
  20. D

    Is Spacetime Curvature Real? - Take 2

    Alright, my first thread with this title got locked down. Let's see how long this one lasts ;-) Actually, this time I have a specific queston. It is often stated there is no test that can determine if space time curvature is truly real. What about LIGO? As I understand it, with the...
  21. camipol89

    Proving Constant Curvature in n-Dimensional Manifold

    Hello everybody, How do you prove that,given an n-dimensional manifold with constant curvature , i.e. the constant K is given by : K= R/n(n-1) (R denotes the scalar curvature)? I tried to contract the Riemann tensor in the expression above to obtain on the left side the scalar...
  22. J

    Relations between curvature and topology

    Hello, all, the most important results that I know in this topic is the Gauss-Bonnet Theorem (and hence the classification of compact orientable surfaces) and also the Poincare-Hopf index theorem. But there are still some fundamental problems I don't understand. For example, is the...
  23. A

    Convex mirror, reduced image, find radius of curvature

    Homework Statement A child holds a candy bar 16.5 cm in front of the convex side-view mirror of an automobile. The image height is reduced by one-half. What is the radius of curvature of the mirror? 1Your answer is incorrect. cm Homework Equations 1/f = 1/do + 1/di...
  24. I

    Properties of curvature tensor in 3 dimensions?

    Is there any properties with the curvature tensors in 3 dimensions? (Maybe between the Ricci tensor and the Ricci scalar, they are proportional to each other? ) I heard about it in a lecture, but I can not remember the details. The 3 dimensional case is not discussed in many reference books...
  25. D

    Spacetime curvature: Real or Not?

    Hi, I'm new to this forum so maybe this topic has been addressed ad nauseum at some point before, so I apologize if so. But, as the title suggests, do you feel the spacetime curvature is a reality, or is it just a mathematical convenience for making predictions? dm4b
  26. G

    Total absolute curvature of a compact surface

    Total "absolute" curvature of a compact surface Hi! Someone could help me resolving the following problem? Let \Sigma \subset \mathbb{R}^3 be a compact surface: show that \int_{\Sigma}{|K|\mathrm{d}\nu} \ge 4\pi where K is the gaussian curvature of \Sigma. The real point is that I want...
  27. quasar987

    (anti)-symmetries of the Riemann curvature tensor

    The Riemannian curvature tensor has the following symmetries: (a) Rijkl=-Rjikl (b) Rijkl=-Rijlk (c) Rijkl=Rklij (d) Rijkl+Rjkil+Rkijl=0 This is surely trivial, but I do not see how to prove that Rijkl=-Rjilk. :( Thanks.
  28. jfy4

    Diffeomorphism and constant curvature

    I have a question... Since solutions to Einstein's field equations are diffeomorphism invariant, does that mean that solutions are metrics of constant curvature?
  29. M

    Proving Geodesic Curvature of Curve in Surface is Equal to Projection

    Homework Statement Show that the geodesic curvature of an oriented curve C in S at a point p in C is equal to the curvature of the plane curve obtained by projecting C onto the tangent plane along the normal to the surface at p. Homework Equations Meusnier's theorem, and k^2 = (k_g)^2 +...
  30. M

    Constant Normal Curvature on Curves Lying on a Sphere?

    Homework Statement What curves lying on a sphere have constant geodesic curvature? Homework Equations k^2 = (k_g)^2 + (K_n)^2 The Attempt at a Solution I'm trying to understand the solution given in the back of the book. It says, a curve on a sphere will have constant curvature...
  31. M

    Curvature of Space: Explaining Gravitational Forces

    Hi! A google search for my upcomming question lead me to this page, and I am delighted to find an online community of psysics who hopefully will answer my, maybe, very simpel question. In the study of Einstein's General Relativity theory, the picture of a sphere placed in a net representing...
  32. L

    How Does Gauss Curvature Integral Relate to Holonomy in SO(2) Bundles?

    On an oriented surface, the integral of the Gauss curvature over a smooth triangle can be interpreted as the angle of rotation of a vector that is parallel translated once around the three bounding edges. How does one interpret the integral of the Gauss curvature of an arbitrary SO(20 bundle...
  33. I

    Proove interchange symmetry of the Riemann curvature tensor

    Homework Statement Proove that: R_{abcd} = R_{cdab} Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a Solution I'm not sure whether to expand the following equations any further (using the definitions for the christoffel symbols) and hope that I can re-label repeated indexes at a later stage or if there is...
  34. S

    How Do You Calculate the Curvature K(t) of a Given Curve?

    Homework Statement Find the curvature K(t) of the curve r(t) = (-4sin(t)) i + (-4sin(t)) j + (5cos(t)) k.Homework Equations K(t) = |r'(t) x r"(t)| / |r'(t)|3 The Attempt at a Solution r'(t) = (-4cos(t))i + (-4cos(t))j + (-5sin(t))k r"(t) = (4sin(t))i + 4sin(t))j + (-5cos(t))k |r'(t)| =...
  35. K

    What is the Radius of Curvature of a Trajectory Described by a Golf Ball?

    Homework Statement A golfer hits a golf ball from point A with an initial velocity of 50 m/s at an angle of 25° with the horizontal. Determine the radius of curvature of the trajectory described by the ball (a) at point A, (b) at the highest point of the trajectory.Homework Equations p = V2/an...
  36. L

    Curvature of an Artificial Rainbow (created in Lab).

    I have just created a rainbow artificially and the photo is attached. I didn't expect the bow to come out straight as it has. Does anyone have any idea why it is straight and not curved (or circular)? I know rainbows are normally curved (or spherical) normally because the particles that the...
  37. F

    Scalar Curvature, R, for Dummies

    Is it possible to explain, in one or two paragraphs, what the scalar curvature, R, is as it applies to General Relativity (the Einstein Field Equation, specifically?). This needs to be understandable to a high school AP-C physics student. Signed, Me - the high school AP-C physics student...
  38. facenian

    Confusion wiht Curvature Tensor

    I Have a problem understanding that vanishing of the curvature tensor implies that parallel transport is independent of path. With the converse of this assertion I have no problem. The text I'm reading(Lovelock and Rund) explains the converse but treats the direct assertion as trivial. Can...
  39. B

    Relationship between radius of curvature and slope

    Hello all, We know that for some well-behaved, smooth/continuous, twice differentiable function of x, f[x] there exists at each point a slope (f ' [x]) and a radius of curvature \rho [x]=\frac{\left(1+f'[x]^2\right)^{\frac{3}{2}}}{f\text{''}[x]} It also seems intuitive to think that at...
  40. A

    Radius of Curvature: Parabola y^2=4ax

    what is the radius of curvature of a parabola y^2=4ax at the end of the focal chord ?
  41. M

    How to Calculate the Curvature of a Level Curve?

    I can’t find the notation I need to look up what I need to know. I have a mapping defined thus: x = F (a, b, c) y = G (a, b, c) Where [a, b, c] is any point from some 3-space surface and [x, y] is in cartesian space. F, G are continuously differentiable (but may contain discontinuities, a...
  42. A

    Find Radius of Curvature for x2y=a(x2+y2) at (-2a,2a)

    Homework Statement how to find the radius of curvature for following curve-: x^2y=a(x^2+y^2) at the point (-2a,2a) Homework Equations radius of curvature= {(1+y1)^3/2}/y2 where y1 and y2 are the first and second order...
  43. Z

    Does general relativity give curvature a magnitude?

    I see that general relativity uses tensors to calculate curvature. How exactly does relativity calculate actual curvature. Are the units of curvature m^-1, like regular curvature units? For example, using SI units Ruv - 1/2guvR = (8πG/c^4)Tuv R00 - 1/2g00R = (8πG/c^4)T00 R00 + R/2 = 8πGρ/c^2...
  44. S

    Understanding the Mechanics of Composites: Stress and Strain Transformations

    Does anyone know how to even start this problem.. :( I seriously have no idea...spent like few hours to find this out on the library and no luck... Please help a poor guy out...I aint smart enough for this...
  45. Erland

    Exploring Gravity & Curvature in Spacetime

    If I understand GR correctly, gravity is no real force but only an effect of the curvature of spacetime. Thus, objects subject to no other forces than gravity follow trajectories in spacetime that are geodesics. I find this very hard to understand, because the trajectories of such objects don't...
  46. Y

    Device to measure curvature of spacetime.

    While posting a reply in another thread, I had an inspiration for a device to measure spacetime curvature. It is well know that we can measure this curvature by measuring the angles of a large triangle or comparing the circumference of a circle to its radius, but his device may may be simpler or...
  47. ShayanJ

    Curvature in space time ? Gravity

    Can someone explain how a curvature in space-time,can cause motion? (Without telling the pillow example) Thanks
  48. S

    Layman's question about the application of the curvature to space

    My question concerns the affect of the curvature of space on a stationary object. I understand that the force of gravity is more accurately described as space curvature. Ie, a massive object like the sun or Earth can be visualized as a bowling ball placed on a rubber sheet, creating a curvature...
  49. N

    Gravity curvature and graviton

    Hello all, I'm new to GR and trying to understand everything in general now... I was looking at pictures like this one http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Spacetime_curvature.png for a very long time. I made two major "experimental" conclusions here: 1. A meter near planet...
  50. L

    Adiabatic Curvature - Deduce the Local Adiabatic Curvature K

    Hi, I am working on the Laughlin model of Quantum Hall Effect, which relates to the concept ' adiabatic curvature'. The paper didn't include much details, and I knew little about berry phase. Could some one please give me some idea that how is the local adiabatic curvature deduced? ( the...
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