Derivatives Definition and 1000 Threads

  1. K

    Quick Questions on Derivatives

    I've hit a snag in my studies, namely something my book labels "Corollary 10.1": [i]Are there any other functions with the same derivative as x^2+2=2x? You should quickly come up with several: x^2+3 and [itex x^2-4[/itex] for instance. In fact, d/dx[x^2+c]=2x for any constant c. Are there...
  2. H

    Quick Question on Unusual Derivatives

    The problem I'm curious about is this: \frac{\partial}{\partial r}(\frac{\partial r}{\partial θ}) I found that the answer is zero using WolframAlpha, but obviously I won't have that on a future test xD. Can someone please explain to me how to think about the derivative above? How can I look...
  3. F

    How do I use the chain rule for finding second-order partial derivatives?

    Homework Statement let u=f(x,y) , x=x(s,t), y=y(s,t) and u,x,y##\in C^2## find: ##\frac{\partial^2u}{\partial s^2}, \frac{\partial^2u}{\partial t^2}, \frac{\partial^2u}{\partial t \partial s}## as a function of the partial derivatives of f. i'm not sure I'm using the chain rules...
  4. C

    Jacobi identity for covariant derivatives proof.

    Suppose we have a torsion free connection. Does anyone here know of a slick way to prove that covariant derivatives satisfy the Jacobi identity? I.e. that $$([\nabla_X,[\nabla_Y,\nabla_Z]] + [\nabla_Z,[\nabla_X,\nabla_Y]] +[\nabla_Y,[\nabla_Z,\nabla_X]])V = 0$$ without going into...
  5. J

    Understanding Partial Derivatives with Multiple Variables

    Se a function f(x(t, s), y(t, s)) have as derivative with respect to t: \frac{df}{dt}=\frac{df}{dx} \frac{dx}{dt}+\frac{df}{dy} \frac{dy}{dt} And, with respect to s: \frac{df}{ds}=\frac{df}{dx} \frac{dx}{ds}+\frac{df}{dy} \frac{dy}{ds} But, how will be the derivative with respect to...
  6. J

    Derivatives with multiple variable, help

    Homework Statement This is an Optimization Problem, find the maximum value. P(R)=(E^2*R)/(R+r)^2 Homework Equations P'(R)=? The Attempt at a Solution I have the solution to this problem, and I can solve it, I just don't understand some parts. I tend to think that the...
  7. J

    Integrating derivatives in matrix elements

    First a little warm up problem. Suppose g:\mathbb{R}^N\to\mathbb{C} is some fixed function, and we want to find f:\mathbb{R}^N\to\mathbb{C} such that g(x) = u\cdot\nabla_x f(x) holds, where u\in\mathbb{R}^N is some constant. The problem is not extremely difficult, and after some work...
  8. lonewolf219

    Derivatives and equilibrium position of a spring

    I determined the equilibrium point of a spring by setting the potential energy function U(r) equal to zero and solving for r. But I just looked at the guided solution, and they took the derivative of U(r) first, then solved for r. Is my approach correct? Can we solve for the equilibrium...
  9. 1

    Functions with increasing derivatives

    Consider a function f(x), such that for all points x0 in the domain, the nth derivative of f evaluated that x0 is less than the n+1th derivative of f evaluated at x0. A quick example is f(x) = e^(ax) where a > 1, what others are there (not including just changing e to something else)? Is...
  10. H

    Functional derivatives worksheet

    Greetings, I want to become more fluent using functional derivatives. Does anyone have a link to sets of problems involving functional derivatives or anything like that (e.g., a worksheet from a class where they were used or something)? The lengthier the better, and ideally the solutions...
  11. J

    Two Functions intersect and have equal derivatives at x=a and x=b

    Sorry, wasn't sure how to describe the problem in the title. Homework Statement Okay, this problem has really been bugging me for a while. It's a question that I thought of when I was daydreaming in class, but now I can't stop thinking about it. I've been going crazy for days Here is the...
  12. P

    How do you find the second derivative of a function using the chain rule?

    Homework Statement Find the second derivative of $$9x^2+y^2=9$$ Homework Equations Chain rule The Attempt at a Solution I find the first derivative first. $$18x+2y\frac{dy}{dx}=0$$ $$\frac{dy}{dx}=-9\frac{x}{y}$$ I then find the second derivative...
  13. P

    Derivatives of Trigonometric Functions with the Chain Rule

    Homework Statement Find the derivative of $$y=cos(\frac{1-e^{2x}}{1+e^{2x}})$$ Homework Equations Chain rule The Attempt at a Solution $$y=cosu$$ $$\frac{dy}{du}=-sinu$$ $$u=\frac{1-e^{2x}}{1+e^{2x}}$$ $$ \frac{du}{dx}=(1-e^{2x})(-(1+e^{2x})^{-2})+(1+e^{2x})^{-1}(-2e^{2x})$$...
  14. P

    Derivative of y=cos(a3+x3)What is the derivative of y=cos(a3+x3)?

    Homework Statement Find the derivative of y=cos(a3+x3) Homework Equations Chain rule The Attempt at a Solution y=cosu \frac{dy}{du} = -sinu u=a3+x3 \frac{du}{dx} = 3a2+3x2 \frac{dy}{dx} = -3sin(a3+x3)(a2+x2). The answer is supposed to be -3x2sin(a3+x3). What did...
  15. P

    Finding the Derivative of y=xe-kx using the Chain Rule

    Homework Statement Find the derivative of y=xe-kx Homework Equations Chain rule The Attempt at a Solution y = xeu \frac{dy}{du} = xeu+eu u = -kx \frac{du}{dx} = -k \frac{dy}{dx} = (xe-kx+e-kx)(-k) = e-kx(x+1)(-k) = e-kx(-kx-k) The answer is e-kx(-kx+1)...
  16. P

    How Do You Apply the Chain Rule to Differentiate y=e^(√x)?

    1. Find the derivative of y=e\sqrt{x} Homework Equations Chain rule The Attempt at a Solution y=eu \frac{dy}{du}= ueu-1 u=\sqrt{x} \frac{du}{dx}= \frac{1}{2}x-1/2 \frac{dy}{dx}= \sqrt{x}e\sqrt{x}-1 × \frac{1}{2}x-1/2 = \sqrt{x} \frac{e^\sqrt{x}}{e} ×...
  17. P

    Derivatives and rate of change

    1. A ladder 10 ft long rests against a vertical wall. Let θ be the angle between the top of the ladder and the wall and let x be the distance from the bottom of the ladder to the wall. If the bottom of the ladder slides away from the wall, how fast does x change with respect to θ when...
  18. Q

    What Are the Properties of First and Second Derivatives?

    Homework Statement http://i3.minus.com/j7uTkNLAl2aBy.png Homework Equations Extrema occur at critical points; critical points are either where the first derivative fails to exist or equals 0. Horizontal tangent lines occur where the first derivative is 0. Points of inflections occur...
  19. C

    Clarification on Lie Derivatives

    The standard definition of the lie derivative of X along Y is just $$(*) \mathcal{L}_YX = \lim_{t\to 0} \frac{X_{\phi(t)} - \phi_{t*}X}{t}$$ where ##\phi_t## is the flow generated by Y. I.e. the limit of the difference between a pushforward of X along Y and X evaluated at a point...
  20. snoopies622

    Finding the operators for time derivatives of observables

    Looking through this matrix approach to the quantum harmonic oscillator, http://blogs.physics.unsw.edu.au/jcb/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Oscillator.pdf especially the equations m \hat{ \ddot { x } } = \hat { \dot {p} } = \frac {i}{\hbar} [ \hat {H} , \hat {p} ] I'm getting the impression...
  21. K

    Derivatives of a higher order - Satisfying the equation

    Homework Statement Show that y= xex satisfi es A(d2y)/dx2 + B(dy/dx) + Cy = 0 for suitably chosen values of the constants A, B, and C. Homework Equations Y=xex The Attempt at a Solution Please see the attachment. I get to a point where I need to find the value of A, B...
  22. L

    Is the given unit vector derivation valid for any coordinate system?

    ## \vec{r}=\rho \cos \varphi \vec{i}+\rho \sin \varphi \vec{j}+z\vec{k} ## we get \vec{e}_{\rho}=\frac{\frac{\partial \vec{r}}{\partial \rho}}{|\frac{\partial \vec{r}}{\partial \rho}|} \vec{e}_{\varphi}=\frac{\frac{\partial \vec{r}}{\partial \varphi}}{|\frac{\partial \vec{r}}{\partial...
  23. T

    Directional Derivatives and Commutation

    Homework Statement I need to prove that directional derivatives do not commute. Homework Equations Thus, I need to show that: (\vec{A} \cdot \nabla)(\vec{B} \cdot \nabla f) - (\vec{B} \cdot \nabla)(\vec{A} \cdot \nabla f) = (\vec{A} \cdot \nabla \vec{B} - \vec{B} \cdot \nabla...
  24. J

    Propogation of Coefficient Standard Deviations using Derivatives

    Hi all, This is my first post here. As a bit of background I have a keen interest in mathematics, but I'm not necessarily strong in it... Today I was working with a dataset that models difference in elevation values (dH) over time (x). I have approximately 20 samples, of which each dH value...
  25. M

    Questions about vectors and derivatives.

    Homework Statement I failed my math exam last year (first year of college) because I basically had no math classes during my last two years of high school. So I would like to learn the specific materials to be able to solve these problems. So I guess this isn't a traditional question, but I do...
  26. P

    Angle Calculation for Particle Velocity and Z-Axis at Given Time t1

    Homework Statement A point particle has a position vector r⃗ (t) as a function of time t, given by r(t)=(1−t2)x^−2t(t+5)y^+8(t+2)z^. where distances are in meters, and time t is in seconds. Now, let t=t1= 23 s. What is the (smaller) angle between the velocity vector at time t1 and the z^...
  27. M

    Small question about derivatives and gradients.

    Is the grad(\frac{\partial f}{\partial t}) the same as \frac{\partial}{\partial t}(gradf)? Thank you.
  28. Kelsi_Jade

    Partial Derivatives for an Ideal Gas

    The question is: a) Find explicit expressions for an ideal gas for the partial derivatives: (∂P/T)T, (∂V/∂T)P and (∂T/∂P)V b) use the results from a) to evaluate the product (∂P/V)T*(∂V/∂T)P*(∂T/∂P)V c) Express the definitions of V(T,P) KT(T,P)an BT(T,V) in terms of the indicated independent...
  29. C

    MHB Understanding Derivatives: Step-by-Step Guide to Finding f'(x) of f(x)=2

    I don't understand this concept very well. So suppose I want to find the derivative of the function f(x)=2. is the answer just zero? what if I want to find f'(x)=2x, or f'(x)=2x3? please explain how to get the answer step by step, is there some equation I use or something? I just don't get it!
  30. Saitama

    Comparing Derivatives: Solving for g'(x) and f'(x) with Two Given Points

    Homework Statement Let ##f(x)## and ##g(x)## be two differentiable function in R and f(2)=8, g(2)=0, f(4)=10 and g(4)=8 then A)##g'(x)>4f'(x) \forall \, x \, \in (2,4)## B)##3g'(x)=4f'(x) \, \text{for at least one} \, x \, \in (2,4)## C)##g(x)>f(x) \forall \, x \, \in (2,4)##...
  31. Y

    Nth Derivatives and Taylor Polynomials

    Homework Statement Show that if f^{(n)}(x_0) and g^{(n)}(x_0) exist and \lim_{x \rightarrow x_0} \frac{f(x)-g(x)}{(x-x_0)^n} = 0 then f^{(r)}(x_0) = g^{(r)}(x_0), 0 \leq r \leq n . Homework Equations If f is differentiable then \lim_{x \rightarrow x_0}\frac{f(x)-T_n(x)}{(x-x_0)^n}=0 ...
  32. S

    Deriving Partial Derivatives of Z with Respect to r and θ

    I am given Z = f (x, y), where x= r cosθ and y=r sinθ I found ∂z/∂r = ∂z/∂x ∂x/∂r + ∂z/∂y ∂y/∂r = (cos θ) ∂z/∂x + (sin θ) ∂z/∂y and ∂z/∂θ = ∂z/∂x ∂x/∂θ + ∂z/∂y ∂y/∂θ= (-r sin θ) ∂z/∂x + (r cos θ) ∂z/∂y I need to show that ∂z/∂x = cos θ ∂z/∂r - 1/r * sin θ ∂z/∂θ and ∂z/∂y = sin...
  33. M

    Finding the nth Derivatives of cos^12x & a-x/a+x

    Homework Statement how to find nth derivatives cos^12x and a-x/a+x Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution
  34. W

    Properties of mixed partial derivatives

    Hi, I am sort of hung up with a particular step in a derivation, and this has caused me to ponder a few properties of partial derivatives. As a result, I believe I may be correct for the wrong reasons. For this example, the starting term is (\frac{\partial}{\partial x}\frac{\partial...
  35. Mandelbroth

    Challenging Summations, Limits, and Derivatives

    I'm going to talk with someone at a local university tomorrow to see if I can get out of AP Calculus. Essentially, I would like to be prepared for our meeting tomorrow. I'm good with integrals, so that shouldn't be a problem. However, I'm not quite as confident with derivatives, limits, and...
  36. C

    Derivatives of functions of products of variables

    Is there a general formula for (total) derivatives of functions of the form f(xy(x)+z(x)? I tried the most simple function of that form f(xy(x)+z(x))=xy(x)+z(x) and the formula I got was \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}+\frac{\partial f}{\partial y} \frac{dy}{dx}+\frac{\partial f}{\partial...
  37. S

    MHB Derivatives of $\frac{a}{1-r}$: Exploring the Rules

    I am having a little trouble remembering the rules with derivatives. $\frac{a}{1-r}$ I know that it should be (derivative of the top*bottom - top*derivative bottom) / (bottom squared). $\frac{d}{dr}\frac{a}{1-r}$ I tried this got the answer wrong, and looked up how to do this and they showed...
  38. 1

    Cubes, spheres, and derivatives.

    The volume of a sphere with radius r is v = \frac{4}{3}\pi r ^{3} It makes sense that its derivative with respect to radius is the surface area of the sphere. \frac{dv}{dr} = a = 4\pi r ^{2} The volume of a cube with side length n is n^{3} The derivative of this is just 3n^(2)...
  39. N

    Having Issues with Solving Derivatives

    Homework Statement Use the definition of a derivative to compute the derivative of the function at the given value. P(t)=t^3-4, t=-2 Homework Equations Please help me solve it in this form: f(a+h)-f(a)/h lim h→0 The Attempt at a Solution...
  40. S

    Notation for partial derivatives using indexes

    Is there a standard notation for partial derivatives that uses indexes instead of letters to denote ideas such as the 3 rd partial derivative with respect to the the 2nd argument of a function? As soon as a symbol gets superscripts and subscripts like \partial_{2,1}^{3,1} \ f the spectre of...
  41. N

    Geometrical meaning of derivatives

    I don't understand what the derivatives really mean?I know that they are the slope of the tangents drawn to a function.But see for example we have a function f(x)=x2 The derivative of this gives us '2x'. But what does '2x' mean?If i draw a graph of f(x)=2x what does it give me?what should i...
  42. G

    Find a 2-arguments function from six constraints on its derivatives

    Hello, I need to find a two-arguments function u(x,y) which satisfies six constraints on its derivatives. x and y are quantities so always positive. 1&2: On the first derivatives: du/dx>0 for all x & du/dy>0 for all y (so u is increasing in x and y) 3&4: On the second derivatives...
  43. D

    Is the Quotient Rule Necessary for Derivatives in All Cases?

    I am a little confused about when to use the quotient rule. When you have one function over another function, and are taking the derivative, are you required to use this technique? I thought you were, but then I was watching this video on Khan Academy...
  44. L

    Multipole expansion. Problems with understanding derivatives

    Hi everyone Homework Statement I want to find the multipole expansion of \Phi(\vec r)= \frac {1}{4\pi \epsilon_0} \int d^3 r' \frac {\rho(\vec r')}{|\vec r -\vec r'|} Homework Equations Taylor series The Attempt at a Solution My attempt at a solution was to use the Taylor series. I...
  45. L

    A question on notation of derivatives

    I was doing a proof on why the derivative of an even function is odd and vice versa. Now, the way I did the problem was by using the chain rule to rewrite the derivative of f(-x), and the proof worked out perfectly fine. But I had a thought that I can't quite wrap my around, and I think it's...
  46. C

    Can it be argued that derivatives should be undefined?

    I understand derivatives and I am not trying to be like a stickler or anything, but before manipulating the equation to arrive at a form where we can find a real answer for a derivative, we are left with [f(x+h)-f(x)]/h (where h is delta x I guess as most people write it). Before evaluating...
  47. K

    MHB Partial Derivatives of the cosine rule.

    Partial Derivatives Hi all I was wondering if anyone could help me with this problem. I have a triangle that has a = 13.5m, b = 24.6m c, and theta = 105.6 degrees. Can someone remind me of what the cosine rule is? Also (my question is here) From the cosine rule i need to find: the...
  48. Mandelbroth

    Integrating derivatives of various orders

    I'm trying to figure out the general solution to the integral ##\int \frac{d^ny}{dx^n} \, dy##, where n is a positive integer (Meaning no fractional calculus. Keeping things simple.). So far, I have been working with individual cases to see if I can establish a general pattern and then try a...
  49. J

    Finding f'(x) for Logarithm Derivatives Homework with Product and Quotient Rules

    Homework Statement Find f'(x): (abs(((x^2)*((3x+2) ^(1/3)))/((2x-3)^3)) <- Not sure why it''s not showing up but the 1/3 is an exponent to just the (3x+2).Homework Equations Product Rule and Quotient Rule for DifferentiatingThe Attempt at a Solution So I thought I should split it into two...
  50. I

    Relating limits to derivatives, as x approaches non zero number?

    Homework Statement Suppose that f' (2) = 3. Find the limit as x approaches 2 of [f(x)−f(2)]/[sqrt(x) - sqrt(2)] Answer: 6*sqrt 2 Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution f'(x) = lim h->0 = [f(a +h) - f(a)]/h = slope [f(x)-f(2)]/ x-2 a = 2 i would think that the limit =...
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