Dot product Definition and 390 Threads

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    B Find Perpendicular Forces Given 20 N at 60 Degrees

    I have a question. If you're given a force of 20 N and its 60 degrees to the horizontal, how could you find two perpendicular forces?
  2. D

    I Differentiating vector dot product

    Hi. If I have a vector v , say for velocity for example then v.v = v2 and I differentiate wrt t v.v I get 2v.dv/dt but if I differentiate v2 I get 2v dv/dt but v.dv.dt is not the same as v dv/dt so what am I doing wrong ? Thanks
  3. Van Ladmon

    Information loss when taking the dot product of vector equations

    Homework Statement Is the following conclusion correct? Assume there's an equation with vectors on both sides. Taking the dot product of this equation with vectors on both sides loses information, but information will not lose when taking dot products with higher rank tensors on both sides...
  4. Sandro Romualdez

    Vectors: Proving the value of a•(b x c)

    Homework Statement Given that vector a = (1, 2, -5), b = (-12, 41, 75) and c = a + 2b, explain why (without doing any calculations whatsoever) the value of a•(b x c) = 0 Homework Equations No specific equations, as the question asks for the value without making any calculations. This problem...
  5. DeathbyGreen

    Trouble with Peskin QFT textbook

    I'm trying to work through a scattering calculation in the Peskin QFT textbook in chapter 5, specifically getting equation 5.10. They take two bracketed terms 4[p'^{\mu}p^{\nu}+p'^{\nu}p^{\mu}-g^{\mu\nu}(p \cdot p'+m_e^2)] and 4[k_{\mu}k'_{\nu}+k_{\nu}k'_{\mu}-g_{\mu\nu}(k \cdot...
  6. O

    Confused about dot product step while deriving the Liouville equation

    So, while textbook was deriving Liouville eq, this is one of step the book uses. I don't understand this step at all. Why is this step true?
  7. Ventrella

    A Find a circle inside of and tangent to a larger circle

    Start with a circle of radius r and center c. Inside of that circle is an arbitrary point p. Given an arbitrary normalized direction vector d, I need to find the radius and center the circle that (1) intersects p, (2) is tangent with the circle centered at c, and (3) has its center lying on the...
  8. N

    I Homomorphism of an elementwise sum and dot product

    ∑ab is needed but is impractical to implement. Specifically ∑i ai.10i-|i| in any form where I can work with ∑i ai = α and ∑i 10i-|i| separately. Is there a homomorphic function I can run it through such that ∑ab can be expressed as ∑a∑b? Note: for current problem i cannot simply set it up...
  9. C

    Calculating Work with Vector Components and Variable Force

    Hello all! I usually don't like to ask for help... But this is the first week of courses and I'm already stumped on a homework question... 1. Homework Statement So the question states: Find the work by the force F = x^i + xy^j. If the object starts from the origin (0,0), moves along the...
  10. lawlieto

    I Inner Product vs. Dot Product Confusion in Quantum Physics?

    I started learning quantum, and I got a bit confused about inner and dot products. I've attached 2 screenshots; 1 from Wikipedia and 1 from an MIT pdf I found online. Wikipedia says that a.Dot(b) when they're complex would be the sum of aibi where b is the complex conjugate. The PDF from MIT...
  11. L

    Vector dot product and parallel vectors

    Homework Statement show that points P, Q and R are in a straight line P (1, -3, 4) Q ( 2, 2, 1) R (3, 7, -2) and find the vectors ## \vec{PQ} ## and ## \vec{QR} ## Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a SolutionIn proving that the points are in a straight line, we might be able to use dot product...
  12. Z

    Dot Product of Streaming vectors

    Hi all, Suppose we have vectors coming in order as A, B and then C (but A must be deleted before C comes in). Then how to get the dot product between A and C? It is allowed to store some calculations of A before deleting elements of A, for example, we could store norm of A, dot(A, B) and etc...
  13. R

    Dot Product: Understanding and Solving with Vectors | Homework Help

    Homework Statement Im given vectors: b = x hat + y hat c = x hat + z hat Homework Equations http://imgur.com/a/iHTOT The Attempt at a Solution so I have 2 eq's... one says: r * s = rscos(theta) the other is a summation saying multiply x component 1 with x component 2, add y component 1...
  14. B

    I Geometrical interpretation of gradient

    In 'Introduction to Electrodynamics' by Griffiths, in the section of explaining the Gradient operator, it is stated a theorem of partial derivatives is: $$ dT = (\delta T / \delta x) \delta x + (\delta T / \delta y) \delta y + (\delta T / \delta z) \delta z $$ Further he goes onto say: $$ dT =...
  15. R

    I Why is the dot product equivalent to matrix multiplication?

    Why is the dot product equivalent to the matrix multiplication of its components? I've seen some proofs using Pythagorean and cosine law but they don't give you an intuitive feel as to why matrix multiplication works. The geometric definition (##ab cosθ##) is very easy to understand. To a...
  16. Wrichik Basu

    B What is the real life utility of the dot product and cross product

    Today, my teacher asked us what is the real life utility of the dot product and cross product of vectors. Many of us said that one gives a scalar product, and one gives a vector product. But he said that, that was not the real life utility of the dot and cross product. He asked us, "Students...
  17. Experience111

    A 4th order tensor inverse and double dot product computation

    Hi everyone, I am currently working on a subject that involves a lot of 4th order tensors computations including double dot product and inverse of fourth order tensors. First the definitions so that we are on the same page. What I call the double dot product is : $$ (A:B)_{ijkl} =...
  18. Prof. 27

    Angle between vector and tangent vector

    Homework Statement My problem is: For the logarithmic spiral R(t) = (e^t cost, e^t sint), show that the angle between R(t) and the tangent vector at R(t) is independent of t. Homework Equations N/A The Attempt at a Solution The tangent vector is just the vector that you get when you take the...
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    I Notations used with vector field and dot product

    Hello, I try to understand the following demonstration of an author (to proove that dot product is conserved with parallel transport) : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Demonstration : By definition, the...
  20. F

    I Conservation of dot product with parallel transport

    Hello, I have 2 questions regarding similar issues : 1*) Why does one say that parallel transport preserves the value of dot product (scalar product) between the transported vector and the tangent vector ? Is it due to the fact that angle between the tangent vector and transported vector is...
  21. mamadou

    I How do we compute an integral with a dot product inside ?

    I was trying to solve a problem involving work , as we know : w = \int_{a}^{b} \vec{f}.d\vec{s} but in my problem the path was cyrcular , so how to evaluate this kind of integral ?
  22. H

    I Validity of proof of Cauchy-Schwarz inequality

    Proof: If either x or y is zero, then the inequality |x · y| ≤ | x | | y | is trivially correct because both sides are zero. If neither x nor y is zero, then by x · y = | x | | y | cos θ, |x · y|=| x | | y | cos θ | ≤ | x | | y | since -1 ≤ cos θ ≤ 1 How valid is this a proof of the...
  23. P

    Find X Coord of Point A in Dot Product Homework

    Homework Statement How would I find the X coordinate of point A. So far I have: A: ( X=? Y=-231.125" Z=175") B: (X=0" Y=0" Z=144") https://physicsforums-bernhardtmediall.netdna-ssl.com/data/attachments/90/90134-44f7db5f8e2c5989352d374160952d17.jpg Homework Equations...
  24. T

    I Dot product constrained optimization

    Problem: Fix some vector ##\vec{a} \in R^n \setminus \vec{0}## and define ##f( \vec{x} ) = \vec{a} \cdot \vec{x}##. Give an expression for the maximum of ##f(\vec{x})## subject to ##||\vec{x}||_2 = 1##. My work: Seems like a lagrange multiplier problem. I have ##\mathcal{L}(\vec{x},\lambda)...
  25. RoboNerd

    Question about determining the angles of triangle given two vectors

    <<Mentor note: Missing template due to originally being posted elsewhere>> Hello everyone. I have the following problem: Determine the angles of a triangle where two sides of a triangle are formed by the vectors A = 3i -4j -k and B=4i -j + 3k I thought that I would find the third side being...
  26. parshyaa

    I Define Dot Product: A.B = ||A|| ||B|| cos(theta)

    I have seen a proof for the formula of A.B = ||A|| ||B|| cos(theta)[ proof using the diagram and cosine rule]. In the proof they have assumed that distributive property of dot product is right. diagram is given below c.c =(a-b).(a-b) = a^2 +b^2 -2(a.b) [ here they used distributive law] I...
  27. parshyaa

    I Why is A.A = ||A||^2 in Vector Analysis?

    Why A .A =||A||^2(dot product) in vector analysis. Every where in vector analysis mathematicians used this result. To prove A.B = ||A|| ||B||cos(theta) we assume that A.A is ||A||^2 , without assuming this we can't prove A.B = ||A|| ||B||cos(theta) . I think they assumed it because dot product...
  28. M

    I The "real" angle between two triangular surfaces

    Hello everyone, i'm new to the forum so hope it is the right place for my question :) i need to know the angle between two triangular surfaces, the easiest way would be extract the normal for each surface(u,v) and then using the dot product we can easily compute the cosine for the angle I'm...
  29. S

    How to Determine Perpendicular and Collinear Vectors with 2 Variables

    Homework Statement This problem actually has 2 parts. For vectors a= (2,p,8) and b= (q,4,12), determine the values of p and q so that the vectors are a)perpendicular b) collinear textbook answer: a) p= 1 and q= -50 (answers may vary) b) p= 8/3 and q=3 Homework Equations a*b = 0 a*b =...
  30. H

    Dot product of tensor-vector product

    Homework Statement Using index notation only (no expanding of terms), show: \begin{equation*} \text{(a) }\underline{ \bf{a}} \cdot \underline{\bf{A}} \underline{\bf{b}} = \underline{\bf{A}} \cdot \underline{\bf{a}} \otimes \underline{\bf{b}} \end{equation*} Homework Equations...
  31. A

    Finding the Locus of a Moving Point: Solving for a Hyperbola Using Dot Products

    Homework Statement A point P moves so that its distances from A(a, 0), A'(-a, 0), B(b, 0) B'(-b, 0) are related by the equation AP.PA'=BP.PB'. Show that the locus of P is a hyperbola and find the equations of its asymptotes. Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a Solution AP.PA' =...
  32. Blockade

    Can someone help me find the angle between two forces?

    Can someone help me relearn finding the angle between two forces when solving for work of each forces (gravity, tension, fF, normal)? I remember that cos(90°-α) = sin(α) but what I don't understand is when the angle in between is "90°-α" or when it's just "α". I tried doing this on my own and...
  33. S

    Gradient of dot product using suffix notation

    Homework Statement Find the gradient of \underline{\nabla}(\underline{a}\cdot\underline{r})^n where a is a constant vector, using suffix notation and chain rule. Homework Equations On the previous problem,s I found that grad(a.r)=a and grad(r)=\underline{\hat{r}} The Attempt at a Solution...
  34. R

    What is the largest number of mutually obtuse vectors in Rn?

    This is my question: What is the largest m such that there exist v1, ... ,vm ∈ ℝn such that for all i and j, if 1 ≤ i < j ≤ m, then ≤ vi⋅vj = 0 I found a couple of solutions online. http://mathoverflow.net/questions/31436/largest-number-of-vectors-with-pairwise-negative-dot-product...
  35. CheesyPeeps

    How Do You Calculate Dot Products in Geometric Problems?

    Homework Statement Homework Equations p.q+p.r The Attempt at a Solution I've expanded p.(q+r) to give p.q+p.r. The magnitude of p is 3, and since ABE is an equilateral triangle, the magnitude of q is also 3, right? So then p.q=9, but the answer scheme states that p.q=4.5. I'm still pretty...
  36. O

    Derivative of Dot Product via Product Rule, commutative?

    Homework Statement Basically, I'm looking at the property that says if the magnitude of a vector valued function is constant, then the vector function dotted with it's derivative will be zero. But I'm stuck towards the end because the proof I found online seems to skip a step that I'm not...
  37. tomdodd4598

    Can the Dot Product of Four Vectors Maintain Positive Component Signs?

    Hi there, I understand that taking the dot product of two four vectors automatically applies the metric tensor to the second vector. Is there a way to take write the dot product, using vector notation, in a way which keeps the signs of all of the components positive? Thanks in advance.
  38. A

    Cauchy's equation in terms of material acceleration

    Does anyone know which formula is used or how to arrive at the righthand side of the equation below, which is the dot product of del and rho*a 2nd order tensor(V V). . represents dot product and X a vector quantity This problem is in connection with transforming cauchy's equation in terms of...
  39. J

    Can I use a dot product of accel. and vel. to find displace.

    Homework Statement at what initial speed would a projectile have to start at when ejected at 35 degrees to the horizontal from a point A to a point B which is 9.4km distance away in the horizontal and 3.3km below it. taking g as 10m/s[/B]Homework Equations I'm not really sure if these equations...
  40. S

    Why work done by a force is a scalar product

    Why work done by a force was taken as dot product between force applied and displacement caused?
  41. C

    MHB Vector dot product in spherical co-ordinate

    Hi, I am interested to see how to use the vector dot product formula in spherical coordinate system, $$ V_1= r + \theta, at (1,0,0)$$ and $$ V_2= r - \theta, at (1, \frac{\pi}{2}, \frac{\pi}{2})$$ how to evaluate their dot product? do I have to transfer them into cartesian system? what would...
  42. P

    Proving volume of box using cross and dot product

    Homework Statement The diagram shows a box with parallel faces. Two of the faces are trapezoids and four of the faces are rectangles. The vectors A, B, and C lie along the edges as shown, and their magnitudes are the lengths of the edges. Define the necessary additional symbols and prove...
  43. P

    Finding dot product, cross, and angle between 2 vectors

    Homework Statement [/B] Vector A lies in the yz plane 63.0 degrees from the +y axis, has a positive z component, and has a magnitude 3.20 units. Vector B lies in the xz 48.0 degrees from the +x axis, has positive z component, and has magnitude 1.40 units. a) find A dot B b) find A x B c)...
  44. J

    Index Notation Help: Solve [a,b,c]^2

    1. The problem is: ( a x b )⋅[( b x c ) x ( c x a )] = [a,b,c]^2 = [ a⋅( b x c )]^2 I am supposed to solve this using index notation... and I am having some problems. 2. Homework Equations : I guess I just don't understand the finer points of index notation. Every time I think I am getting...
  45. W

    Dot product for vectors in spherical coordinates

    Hi all. I'm struggling with taking dot products between vectors in spherical coordinates. I just cannot figure out how to take the dot product between two arbitrary spherical-coordinate vectors ##\bf{v_1}## centered in ##(r_1,\theta_1,\phi_1)## and ##\bf{v_2}## centered in...
  46. K

    Dot product vs trigonometry in Gauss' law

    I'm currently writing my EP on various physical equations including Maxwell's equations, and I had to justify using the dot product of the normal unit vector and the electric field in the integral version. However, I can't think of a reason for not using trigonometry as opposed to the...
  47. S

    Dot product in the Gravitational Potential Energy formula

    This is the gravitational potential energy formula $$U = -\int_\infty^r\vec{F}_\text{field}\cdot d\vec{r}$$ If r vector's direction is form infinity to r, then it means it has same direction as Gravitational Force. So cos0=1 But after multiplication there is a negative sign here: "-GMm" $$U =...
  48. kostoglotov

    Multiple Integral Challenge Question, I just need a hint

    Homework Statement I will just post an image of the problem and here's the link if the above is too small: http://i.imgur.com/JB6FEog.png?1Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a Solution I've been playing with it, but I can't figure out a good way to "grip" this problem. I can see some things...
  49. A

    Given two vectors, find vector of the parallelogram height

    Homework Statement Find the coordinates of the vector of the height of the parallelogram formed by vectors a={1, 2, 1} and b={2, -1, 0} Homework Equations A=|axb|, A=|a|*h The Attempt at a Solution I can find the intensity of the vector h i.e the length of the height, but not its vector. I...
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