Equivalence Definition and 747 Threads

In mathematics, an equivalence relation is a binary relation that is reflexive, symmetric and transitive. The relation "is equal to" is the canonical example of an equivalence relation.
Each equivalence relation provides a partition of the underlying set into disjoint equivalence classes. Two elements of the given set are equivalent to each other, if and only if they belong to the same equivalence class.

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    Energy-mass equivalence - E=mc^2

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  3. D

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  4. J

    Gravity / equivalence principle

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  5. B

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  7. K

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  8. P

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  9. T

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  10. P

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  12. Oxymoron

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  13. S

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  14. N

    Proving Equivalence Relations: Intersection of Two Sets

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  15. M

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  16. J

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  17. H

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  18. N

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  19. L

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  20. H

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  21. Chronos

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  22. P

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  23. W

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  24. V

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  31. S

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  35. J

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  36. Garth

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  37. E

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  38. K

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  41. G

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  43. Antonio Lao

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  45. C

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  46. C

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  47. W

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