Lagrange multipliers Definition and 179 Threads

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    How Do Lagrange Multipliers Help Calculate Distance from a Point to a Plane?

    URGENT - Lagrange Multipliers Homework Statement :confused: Using the method of lagrange multipliers prove the formula for the distance from a point (a,b,c) to a plane Ax + By + Cz = DThe Attempt at a Solution Using the equation of the form; H(x,y,z,L) = (x-a)^2 + (y -b)^2 +(z-c)^2 + L(Ax...
  2. K

    How Do You Solve Lagrange Multipliers with Complex Constraints?

    1. Use the method of Lagrange multipliers to nd the minimum value of the function: f(x,y,z) = xy + 2xz + 2yz subject to the constraint xyz = 32. I understand the method how Lagranges Multipliers is donw done but seem to have got stuck solving the Simultaneous Equations involving the...
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    More fun with lagrange multipliers

    Homework Statement Find the point closest to the origin on the line of intersection of the planes y + 2z = 12 and x + y = 6Homework Equations \nuf = \lambda\nug1 +\mu\nug2 f = x2+y2+z2 g1: y + 2z = 12 g2: x + y = 6 There are supposed to be gradients on all of those, whether or not LaTeX...
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    Recursive Lagrange multipliers

    Hey all, this is my first post, so I apologize in advance if data are missing/format is strange/etc. I'm working with lagrange multipliers, and I can get to the answer about half the time. The problem is, I'm not really sure how to deal with things when the multiplier equation becomes...
  5. S

    Finding Minimum with Lagrange Multipliers

    Homework Statement Find the minimum of f(x,y) = x^2 + y^2 subject to the constraint g(x,y) = xy-3 = 0 Homework Equations delF = lambda * delG The Attempt at a Solution Okay, after lecture, reviewing the chapter and looking at some online information, this is what I have so far...
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    Solve Highest/Lowest Points on Curve of Intersection with Lagrange Multipliers

    Hi There I would like help on a question about Lagrange multipliers. Question: Consider the intersection of two surfaces: an elliptic paraboloid z=x^2 + 2*x + 4*y^2 and a right circular cylinder x^2 + y^2 = 1. Use Lagrange multipliers to find the highest and lowest points on the curve of the...
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    Lagrange Multipliers: A theoretical question and an example

    Hello physicsforums community. I have recently learned about Lagrange multipliers and have been given three problems to solve. Could you guys please go over my work and see if I have the gist of it? One question, a theoretical one, I have no idea how to begin. Any advice regarding this would be...
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    Lagrange multipliers: Variables cancelling out?

    Find the maximum and minimum of f(x,y)=y2-x2 with the constraint x2/4 +y2=2. My calculus professor gave us this on his exam and there were no problems like this in the book and I would just like to know how it's done because it's bothering me ha. After doing the partial derivatives I got...
  9. T

    Lagrange Multipliers Find 3 positive numbers?

    Homework Statement Find 3 positive numbers x, y and z for which: their sum is 24 and which maximizes the product: P = x2y3z. Find the maximum product. The Attempt at a Solution Ok, I know how to set up the equations. x + y + z = 24 Delta(F) <2xy3z, 2x2y2z, x2y3> fx = 2xy3z...
  10. S

    Finding Minimum Values with Lagrange Multipliers

    Homework Statement Minimise = x2 + y2 subject to C(x,y) = 4x2 + 3y2 = 12. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution I let h(x,y) = x2 + y2 + \lambda(4x2 + 3y2 - 12). I got hx = 2x + 8\lambdax = 0, hy = 2y + 6\lambday = 0, but here I get 2 values of \lambda, \lambda = -1/4 &...
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    Lagrange Multipliers: Advantages & Necessity?

    I do not have one specific question that needs answering. Rather, it is about Lagrange multipliers in general. So for certain minimization/maximization questions (ie find the shortest distance from some point to some plane) it seems that one could solve the question using lagrange multipliers...
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    Lagrange Multipliers Question?

    Lagrange Multipliers Question? Homework Statement Find the minimum and maximum values of the function subject to the given constraint. f (x,y,z) = x^2 - y - z, x^2 - y^2 +z = 0 The Attempt at a Solution Okay this is what I did: Gradient f = <2x,-1,-1> Gradient g =...
  13. jegues

    Maximizing Functions with Multiple Constraints

    Homework Statement See figure Homework Equations N/A The Attempt at a Solution Alright we'll this is my first shot at a question like this, so in all honesty I don't know what concepts this question is testing. It mentions finding absolute max/min of a function inside a...
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    Constrained Optimization via Lagrange Multipliers

    Hi, I'm trying to do a constrained optimization problem. I shall omit the details as I don't think they're important to my issue. Let f:\mathbb R^n \to \mathbb R and c:\mathbb R^n \to \mathbb R^+\cup\{0\} be differentiable functions, where \mathbb R^+ = \left\{ x \in \mathbb R : x> 0...
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    Solving Lagrange Multipliers: Max/Min f(x,y)

    Homework Statement Using Lagrange multipliers, find the maximum and minimum values of f(x,y)=x^3y with the constraint 3x^4+y^4=1.Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution Here is my complete solution. I just wanted to make sure there are no errors and I did it correctly. Thanks for any...
  16. S

    Understanding Lagrange Multipliers and Constraint Equations

    I have been reading about Lagrange Multipliers, my book along with wiki and other resources I have read use an intuitive argument on why the max/min contour lines end up tangent to the constraint equation. I don't really understand it, especially considering the obvious flaw as shown by the...
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    Lagrange Multipliers with ellipse

    Homework Statement Find the points on the ellipse x2 + 2y2 = 1 where f(x,y) = xy has its extreme values. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution f(x,y,z) = x2 + y2 + z2 -- constraint g(x,y,z) = x2 + 2y2 -1 = 0 gradient of f = \lambda * gradient of g 2xi + 2yj + 2zk =...
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    Maximum and minimum distance (lagrange multipliers)

    Homework Statement A point lies on the plane x-y+z=0 and on the ellipsoid x^2 +\frac{y^2}{4} + \frac{z^2}{4} = 1 Find the minimum and maximum distances from the origin of this point. The Attempt at a Solution The two contraints g = x-y+z =h= x^2 +\frac{y^2}{4} +...
  19. K

    Solve Lagrange Multipliers for x,y,z in Min Distance Problem

    Homework Statement find the points on the surface x^2-z^2 = 1 which are in minimum distance from (0,0) i should find the points using d = x^2+y^2+z^2 first of all gradf = λ gradg where f = d and g = x^2-z^2 so we have (2x,2y,2z) = λ (2x,0,2z) now 2x = λ2x 2y = 0 => y = 0 2z = λ2z so...
  20. N

    Very Frustrating (or Easy) Lagrange Multipliers Problem

    Homework Statement Find the extrema of the given function subject to the given constraint: f(x,y)=x2-2xy+2y2, subject to x2+y2=1Homework Equations Lagrange Multipliers The Attempt at a Solution First, I defined the constraint to be g(x,y)=0, that is, g(x,y)=x2+y2-1 I then set up the usual...
  21. Saladsamurai

    Derivation of Lagrange Multipliers Method

    Hey folks. :smile: I have some more or less qualitative questions regarding optimization problems via Lagrange multipliers. I am following the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrange_multipliers" on this one and I am just a little confused by their wording. In the first section titled...
  22. N

    Lagrange Multipliers: Find Max of 8x2 + 4yz - 16z + 600

    Homework Statement Assume that the surface temperature distribution of an ellipsoid shaped object given by 4x2 + y2 + 4z2 = 16 is T(x,y,z) = 8x2 + 4yz - 16z + 600.Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution I'm assuming we just have to find the maximum value of this function using the lagrange...
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    Lagrange Multipliers: Understand Why \nabla f = \lambda \nabla g

    Homework Statement Why is \nabla f = \lambda \nabla g where f is the function you want to find the extrema of and g is the contraint? Also how would you identify the above in the following Determine the least real number M such that the inequality |ab(a^2-b^2) +...
  24. A

    Extreme values (Lagrange multipliers)

    determine, if any, the maximum and minimum values of the scalar field f (x, y) = xy subject to the constraint 4x^2{}+9y^2{}=36 The attempt at a solution using Lagrange multipliers, we solve the equations \nablaf=\lambda\nablag ,which can be written as f_{x}=\lambdag_{x}...
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    LaGrange multipliers with natural base

    Homework Statement f(x,y,z)=exy and x5+y5=64 Find Max and MinHomework Equations ∇F = <yexy, xexy> λ∇G = <5x4λ, 5y4λ> The Attempt at a Solution yexy = 5x4λ xexy = 5y4λ x5+y5=64 No idea where to go from here...
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    Numerically Solving ODE with Lagrange Multipliers

    Hi, I'm trying to implement some equations from a paper. It comes down to a system of 2 coupled ODEs. In one of the ODEs, there are 3 Lagrange multipliers. The paper says that the three multipliers can be determined by three integral constraints (integrals of some functions of the...
  27. A

    Use lagrange multipliers to find the shortest distance

    Homework Statement Use lagrange multipliers to find the shortest distance between a point on the elliptic paraboloid z=x^2 +y^2 Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7272/cci1902201000000.jpg I'm not that good with using the equation...
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    Lagrange multipliers and partial derivatives

    Homework Statement Find the point on 2x + 3y + z - 11 = 0 for which 4x^2 +y^2 +z^2 is a minimum Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution Using lagrange multipliers I find: F = 4x^2 + y^2 + z^2 + l(2x + 3y + z) Finding the partial derivatives I get the three equations...
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    Lagrange multipliers with two constraints

    Homework Statement By using the Lagrange multipliers find the extrema of the following function: f(x,y)=x+y subject to the constraints: x2+y2+z2=1 y+z=12. The attempt at a solution Using lambda = 1/(2x) I got x=y-z and y=1-z plugging that into the first constraint, I got: 6y^2-6y+1=0 which...
  30. P

    Lagrange Multipliers - Implicitly defined curve

    Homework Statement Use Lagrange Multipliers to find the points closest to the origin on the curve defined implicitly by x2-xy+y2-z2 = 1 x2+y2=1 2. The attempt at a solution I know how to do this for regular curves, but I don't know where to start with implicitly defined ones. Any...
  31. M

    Lagrange Multipliers - unknown values

    Homework Statement Using Lagrange Multipliers, we are to find the maximum and minimum values of f(x,y) subject to the given constraint Homework Equations f(x,y,z) = x^2 - 2y + 2z^2, constraint: x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 1 The Attempt at a Solution grad f = lambda*grad g (2x, -2, 4z) =...
  32. A

    Max/Min of a function using Lagrange Multipliers

    Homework Statement Find the absolute maximum and minimum values for f(x,y) = sin x + cos y on the rectangle R defined by 0<=x<=2pi and 0<=y<=2pi using the method of Lagrange Multipliers. The Attempt at a Solution I don't know where to start in getting the constraint into something I...
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    Lagrange multipliers and variation of functions

    Let F and f be functions of the same n variables where F describes a mechanical system and f defines a constraint. When considering the variation of these functions why does eliminating the nth term (for example using the Lagrange multiplier method) result in a free variation problem where it...
  34. W

    Solving LaGrange Multipliers for Closest Points to Origin on xy+yz+zx=3

    Homework Statement Consider the problem of finding the points on the surface xy+yz+zx=3 that are closest to the origin. 1) Use the identity (x+y+z)^2=x^2+y^2+z^2+2(xy+yz+zx) to prove that x+y+z is not equal to 0 for any point on the given surface. 2) Use the method of Lagrange...
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    Lagrange Multipliers to find the Maximum and Minimum values

    Homework Statement Use Lagrange Multipliers to find the Maximum and Minimum values of f(x,y) = x2-y. Subject to the restraint g(x,y) = x2+y2=25 Homework Equations gradient f(x,y)= gradient g(x,y) The Attempt at a Solution I have found the gradients of f and g to be f(x,y) =...
  36. T

    Optimization using Lagrange multipliers

    1. Homework Statement [/b] f\left(x,y\right) = x^2 +y^2 g\left(x,y\right) = x^4+y^4 = 2 Find the maximum and minimum using Lagrange multiplier Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution grad f = 2xi +2yj grad g= 4x^3i + 4y^3j grad f= λ grad g 2x=4x^3λ and 2y=...
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    Optimizing Area for a Sport Center with a Rectangular Region and Semicircle Ends

    help me out on this proble i am confuse a sport center is to be constructed.it consists of a rectangular region with a semicircle ach end .if the perimater of the room is to be a 500 meter running truck find the dimetion that will make the area as large as possible. i can find if the...
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    Classical mechanics - Lagrange multipliers

    Homework Statement A disk moves on an inclined plane, with the constraint that it's velocity is always at the same direction as it's plane (similar to an ice skate, maybe). In other words: If \hat{n} is a vector normal to the disk's plane, we have at all times: \hat{n} \cdot \vec{v} = 0. Also...
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    Lagrange multipliers in the calculus of variations

    I'm looking for a derivation of the method of Lagrange multipliers as used in the calculus of variations for extremizing a functional subject to constraints. More specifically, I'm trying to understand the relationship between the "method of Lagrange multipliers" from standard calculus and the...
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    How Do You Solve Lagrange Multipliers for Circle Boundary Optimization Problems?

    Homework Statement Find the maximum and minimum values of f = (x-1)^2 + (y-1)^2 on the boundary of the circle g = x^2 + y^2 = 45. Homework Equations f=(x-1)^2 + (y-1)^2 g=x^2+y^2=45 gradf(x,y)=lambda*gradg(x,y) The Attempt at a Solution gradf(x,y)=<2x-2,2y-4>...
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    Lagrange Multipliers, calc max volume of box

    Homework Statement Point P(x,y,z) lies on the part of the ellipsoid 2x^2 + 10y^2 + 5z^2 = 80 that is in the first octant of space. It is also a vertex of a rectangular parallelpiped each of whose sides are parallel to a coordinate plane. Use Method of LaGrange Multipliers to determine the...
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    Solve Lagrange Multipliers: Find Max/Min f(x,y)

    Homework Statement Use lagrange multipliers to find the maximum and minimum values of f subject to the given constraint, if such values exist. f(x,y) = x+3y, x2+y2≤2 Homework Equations grad f = λ grad g The Attempt at a Solution to find critical points in the interior region...
  43. K

    Lagrange multipliers rotating masses connected by spring

    Homework Statement A particle of mass, m1, is constrained to move in a circle with radius a at z=0 and another particle of mass, m2, moves in a circle of radius b at z=c. For this we wish to write up the Lagrangian introucing the constraints by lagrange multipliers and solve the following...
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    Problem understading lagrange multipliers

    I'm trying to follow the idea behind Lagrange multipliers as given in the following wikipedia link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrange_multipliers I follow the article right up until the point where it goes: 'To incorporate these conditions into one equation, we introduce an...
  45. T

    Finding Points Closest and Furthermost from Origin using LaGrange Multipliers

    Homework Statement Using the method of lagrange multipliers, find the points on the curve 3x² - 4xy + 6y² = 140 which are closest and furthermost from the ORIGIN and the corresponding distances between them The Attempt at a Solution I have done roughly half the question but appear to be...
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    Find Min/Max of f(x,y)=xy with Constraint 4x^2+9y^2=32

    find min/max: f(x,y)=xy with constraint being 4x^2+9y^2=32 [gradient]f=[lambda]gradient g The Attempt at a Solution I thought I understood the Lagrange problems, but I can't seem to get the minimum right on the last few problems. I get x=+/-2 and then plug back into find y, then I use my...
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    Proof of the method of lagrange multipliers

    I have used this method quite a lot but I have never completely understood the proof. The only book I have that provides a proof is Shifrin's "Multivariable Mathematics" which I find kind of confusing. Stewart's "proof" is more or less just geometric intuition. Does anyone know of a book that...
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    Lagrange Multipliers - 2 questions

    Hello: Problem1: The temp of the circular plate D= {(x1,x2) | x1^{2} + x2^{2} \leq 1} is given by T=2x^{2} -3y^{2} - 2x. Find hottest and coldest points of the plate. Problem 2 Show that for all (x1,x2,x3) \in R^{3} with x1>0, x2>0, x3>0 and x1x2x3 = 1, we have x1+x2+x3 \geq3...
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    Optimizing Multivariable Functions with Lagrange Multipliers

    We're suppose to minimize f(x,y,z)=x^2+y^2+z^2 subject to 2x+y+2z=9. I only ever remember learning how to do f(x,y) would it be the same equation? Thus, f(x,y,\lambda) = f(x,y) + \lambda g(x,y)? Meaning f(x,y,z,\lambda) = x^2+y^2+z^2 + \lambda (2x+y+2z-9) and then continue solving for each...
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    Lagrange Multipliers Global vs Local

    http://www.geocities.com/asdfasdf23135/advcal29.JPG I am wondering whether the above statement is true. "A necessary condition for the constrained optimization problem to have a GLOBAL min or max is that..." Should the word local replace global? I am confused about the method of...
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