Natural numbers Definition and 143 Threads

  1. A

    The Sum of All the Natural Numbers

    Hi lovely people, I recently came across a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-I6XTVZXww that said if you add all of the natural numbers from 1 to infinity, the answer is... What do you think it is? Infinity or something like that? They said it was -1/12. I watched the proof but I don't...
  2. K

    MHB Natural Numbers ⊆/⊄ Rationals: Infinite & Uncountable Sets

    Question 1) Write ⊆ or ⊄: {x/(x+1) : x∈N} ________ QNOTE: ⊆ means SUBSET ⊄ means NOT A SUBSET ∈ means ELEMENT N means Natural Numbers Q means Rational Numbers Question 2) Which of the following sets are infinite and uncountable? R - Q {n∈N: gcd(n,15) = 3} (-2,2) N*N {1,2,9,16,...} i.e...
  3. Albert1

    MHB Finding a Solution to an Inequality in Natural Numbers

    $a,b,c,d,e,f,g \in N$ $a<b<c<d<e<f<g$ $\dfrac{1}{a}+\dfrac{1}{b}+\dfrac{1}{c}+\dfrac{1}{d}+\dfrac{1}{e}+\dfrac{1}{f}+\dfrac{1}{g}=1$ please find one possible solution of a,b,c,d,e,f,g (you should find it using mathematical analysis,and show your logic,don't use any program)
  4. A

    Cardinality as the natural numbers

    I have seen a lot of examples of sets with same cardinality as the natural numbers. For instance the even numbers or the cartesian product. In any case the proof amounted to finding a way of labeling the elements uniquely. But I am curious - can anyone give me an example of a set, where this...
  5. Seydlitz

    Proving natural numbers in Pascal's Triangle

    Homework Statement Taken from Spivak's Calculus, Prologue Chapter, P.28 b) Notice that all numbers in Pascal's Triangle are natural numbers, use part (a) to prove by induction that ##\binom{n}{k}## is always a natural number. (Your proof by induction will be be summed up by Pascal's...
  6. E

    MHB Is induction a circular way to define natural numbers?

    Sorry about the intriguing title; this is just a continuation of the discussion in https://driven2services.com/staging/mh/index.php?threads/5216/ from the Discrete Math forum. The original question there was how to introduce mathematical induction in a clear and convincing way. Since the current...
  7. mathworker

    MHB Proving the primality of a quadratic over the natural numbers

    is there any way to prove or disprove the statement: y=3x^2+3x+1 is prime for all x belongs to natural numbers...
  8. mathmaniac1

    MHB How many combinations of natural numbers add up to another?

    Given n numbers x1,x2...xn belong to N. x1+x2+x3...xn=m How many different combinations of x1,x2,x3...xn are there?Is there any formula useful here? Note:x1,x2,x3... need not be distinct and also can be 0. Thanks
  9. J

    2(-1)^n = -2? Problem with (-1) to the power of natural numbers

    EDIT: Found the answer, seems I overlooked part of the solution in the learning materials ( answer extended into another page) the Solution does indeed equal what i thought it did. Homework Statement So this is the problem i have: (2(-1)^n -((n*pi)^2(-1)^n)-2)*(8/(n*pi)^3) where n...
  10. M

    The Place of Natural Numbers in Axiomatic Mathematics

    I'm trying to write down an axiomatic development of most of mathematics, and I'm wondering whether it's logically permissible to use natural numbers as subscripts before they have been defined in terms of the Peano Axioms. For instance... the idea of function is used in the Peano axioms...
  11. S

    Sum of number of divisors of first N natural numbers

    If σ(N) is the sum of all the divisors of N and τ(N) is the number of divisors of N then what is the sum of sum of all the divisors of first N natural numbers and the sum of the number of divisors of first N natural numbers? Is there any relation between σ(N) and τ(N) functions? Can I do that...
  12. mathmaniac1

    MHB Proving Non-Equality of Cubes of Natural Numbers

    Prove that a^3+b^3 \ne to \ c^3 \ if \ a,b \ and \ c \in \ {N} This is not a challenge,I am asking for help... Any help is appreciated... Thanks...
  13. A

    Peano axioms for natural numbers - prove 0.5 ∉ N

    i am studying real analysis from terence tao lecture notes for analysis I. http://www.math.ucla.edu/~tao/resource/general/131ah.1.03w/ from what i understand , property is just like any other statement. for example P(0.5) is P(0) with the 0s replaced with 0.5 . so the notes says (assumes ?)...
  14. M

    Number Theory non zero natural numbers

    Homework Statement For all non zero natural numbers n prove that: 1- 24\mid n(n+1)(n+2)(n+3)(n+4) and that : 2- 120\mid n(n+1)(n+2)(n+3)(n+4)(n+5) The Attempt at a Solution 1- For n=1 we get that 24 divides 120 so we assume that 24 divides n(n+1)(n+2)(n+3)(n+4) and we...
  15. A

    Abstract Algebra - Natural Numbers Proof

    The question is which sets of natural numbers are closed under addition. I know that odd is not, and I know how to prove that sets of multiples are, but my professor said there is something more and that is has to do with greatest common divisor. He said to pick numbers like 3 and 5 or 5 and 8...
  16. T

    How could the set oif natural numbers not be finite

    The set of all possible streams of brain activity arising from all possible configurations of all possible neurons with all possible connections is finite, so if you accept that natural numbers are a creation of the human mind (brain), then don't you have to accept that the set of number is...
  17. T

    How could the set of natural numbers not be finite?

    The set of all possible streams of brain activity arising from all possible configurations of all possible neurons with all possible connections is finite, so if you accept that natural numbers are a creation of the human mind (brain), then don't you have to accept that the set of number is...
  18. S

    Understanding the Ordering of Complex Numbers: Why is it Difficult to Define?

    All, Could some one tell me please ,why in natural numeric system we are not allowed to move from number one to three? I mean ,is this a properties of the natural numbers to be in sequence? for instance if we count base on an imaginary numeric system which allows us to shift between numbers...
  19. A

    Prove that the product of 2 consecutive natural numbers is even

    Homework Statement Prove that the product of two consecutive natural numbers is even. 2. The attempt at a solution Hi, I'm just starting to work with proofs by induction, I'm just wondering if this is a valid technique, and/or if I am being too verbose in my proof, thanks! Let...
  20. J

    How is the set of all natural numbers, N, denumerable?

    I know the history of how set theory came about and how Cantor showed the real numbers between (0,1) were non-denumerable. He did this by showing that they can't be put into a one-one correspondence with N (1, 2, 3...) ...So what does that really tell me? I know it tells me that the...
  21. P

    Sum of the powers of natural numbers

    Hi everyone. I have learned that: 1+2+3+...=\frac{n(n+1)}{2} 12+22+32=\frac{n(n+1)(2n+1)}{6} I want to know what the general formula of Ʃna, in which n and a are natural numbers, respect to n and a.
  22. M

    MATLAB Matlab code natural numbers subset

    I have array of natural numbers from 1 to n. They are divided into m groups, where m*(m-1)=n. I need all m-1 elements from first group, last m-2 elements from second group, last m-3 elements from third group...zero elements from last group. For example 5*4=20: 1,2,3,4; 5,6,7,8...
  23. QuestForInsight

    MHB Natural numbers form a poset under $ \le$

    Problem: let $\mathbb{N} = \left\{0, ~ 1, ...\right\}$ be the set of natural numbers. Prove that $(\mathbb{N},~\le)$ is a poset under the ordinary order. Solution: let $x \in\mathbb{N}$, then $x \le x$ as of course $x = x$. If also $y \in\mathbb{N}$, then $x \le y$ and $y \le x$ implies $x =...
  24. C

    Question about natural numbers.

    Are there an \aleph_0 # of natural numbers with an \aleph_0 # of digits?
  25. T

    1. Symmetric difference; 2. Commutativity of natural numbers

    Homework Statement I have two problems that I got stuck. 1. \exists ! N\in P(X) , A\Lambda N=A, \forall A\in P(X) and for each A\in P(X), \exists ! A'\in P(X) , A\Lambda A' =N 2. Prove a+(b+c) = (a+b) +c, for positive integers a, b, cHomework Equations 1. Given sets A,B \in P(X), where P(X)...
  26. C

    Question about the natural numbers.

    Is the set of natural numbers the only infinite set that is not a power set of another set?
  27. S

    Proving Existence of an Element in a Non-Empty Subset of Natural Numbers

    Hello all. I have been reading Halmos's Naive set theory. In chapter 12., there is an excercise problem which states I thought a lot about this but this seems like a theorem to me and is not at all trivial to prove it. I would greatly appreciate it if you can give me a hint or a clue as...
  28. I

    The product of 8 consecutive natural numbers will not be a perfect square?

    I wish to show that the sum of 9 consecutive natural numbers: n(n+1)(n+2)(n+3)...(n+8) will not be a perfect square. This problem came by as a result of another problem I was doing and I'm wondering if anyone knows/has come across this already. After some searching I found that n! is not a...
  29. J

    Abelian group on the natural numbers (including 0) ?

    Is it possible to define an abelian group on the natural numbers (including 0)? It's just that for every binary operation I've tried, I can't find an inverse!
  30. B

    AP vs. CPAP: Which is Best for Sleep Apnea?

    If 'n' is a natural number such that n>1, prove that there exists a natural number k such that n-k=1. It raises the question: What is the definition of a natural number? Could you say that because n is natural, n-1 must be natural so that if k = n-1, n-k = 1? BiP
  31. L

    No natural numbers that satisfy x^2 - y^2 = 2

    I'm trying to prove that there are no natural numbers x and y that satisfy the equation x^2 - y^2 = 2. I tried to solve it by contradiction and so I assume that x and y are rational numbers and both x and y can be written in the form (a/b) where it's in its simplest form and a and b are both...
  32. C

    Question about the natural numbers?

    My teacher was saying that we can't have a set of infinitely decreasing natural numbers. What if we started at ω and then worked our way backwards. I realize that is ill defined. And where ever we start will be a finite number. But if we can have an infinitely increasing set in the...
  33. S

    Transfinite Theory as an Extension of the Natural Numbers

    Greetings, comrades! In a previous thread, a user articulated a common argument: His analogy mapping knights to horses makes intuitive sense, but how can we apply this idea to two infinite sets of knights and horses? How can we treat finite and transfinite sets equal in that sense and...
  34. K

    Well-Ordering Principle on Natural Numbers

    This is my first proof and post. I'll eventually get better at tex. Homework Statement If n \in N, then n ≥ 0. Hint: N \subset N (thus not any empty set) and has least member by the well-ordering principle. 2. Relevant (i) 0 \subset N (ii) n+1 \in N for all n \in N...
  35. R

    Showing that Increasing sequences of natural numbers is uncountable

    Homework Statement Show that A, the set of all increasing sequences of natural numbers is uncountable Homework Equations I know that the natural numbers themselves are countable. The Attempt at a Solution I am thinking of using some sort of diagonal argument to prove this.
  36. M

    Help with mathematical assertions for natural numbers

    Homework Statement Prove by Mathematical Induction that the assertion, n ∑ r^2 = n/6 (n+1)(2n+1) r=1 holds for every natural number n. Homework Equations Ok, so basically, how do you solve this question? I have got to the Induction step but I'm not sure how to do it...
  37. I

    Proof: Applications of the Universal Property of Natural Numbers

    Homework Statement N refers to the set of all natural numbers. Part 2: From the previous problem, we have σn : N → N for all n ε N. Show that for any n ε N, σ(n+1)(N) is a subset of σn(N), where we have used n + 1 for σ(n) as we defined in class. 2. The attempt at a solution For Part 2, I...
  38. 1

    Prove that the product of any three consecutive natural numbers

    Homework Statement Prove that the product of any three consecutive natural numbers is divisible by 6. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution wat
  39. F

    Fibonacci primes equinumerous with the set of Natural numbers?

    I believe that Fibonacci primes are infinite. Currently there is no proof that there is an infinite number of Fibonacci primes. I was wondering why we couldn't compare the set of Fibonacci primes to the set of Natural Numbers and demonstrate that both have cardinality aleph null? Indeed, why...
  40. D

    Proof with natural numbers and sequences of functions

    Homework Statement For every epsilon > 0, there exists an N\in N such that, for every j >= N, |f(i,n) - g(n)|<epsilon for every n\in N. In addition, for every fixed j\in N, (f(i,n)) converges. Prove that (g(n)) converges. Homework Equations f: N x N --> R, g: N --> R The Attempt at...
  41. B

    Is the Natural Numbers Dense in Itself?

    \ Is \ \mathbb{N} \ dense \ in \ itself.
  42. C

    How can i find a bijection from N( natural numbers) to Q[X]

    How can i find a bijection from N( natural numbers) to Q[X] ( polynomials with coefficient in rational numbers ). I can't find a solution for this. Can you please point me in the right direction ?
  43. O

    Finding Solutions in Natural Numbers for x^2+y^2=4z^2 and x^2+3y^2=4z^2

    How can I solve that type of equation: x^2+y^2=4z^2 or x^2+3y^2=4z^2
  44. O

    How to Solve Quadratic Diophantine Equations in Natural Numbers?

    How can i solve that equation: x^2 + y^2 = z^2-1 or x^2 + 3y^2 = z^2?
  45. N

    Playing with Small Natural Numbers Network

    Since my late interests have been related to networks, I've started a pet project focusing on natural numbers network. I wanted to share my early explorations with this community since you have the proper background to interpret the results. I chose this network exactly because compared to...
  46. F

    Cardinality of Natural even numbers and Natural numbers

    Is Card (N even)< Card (N)? Where N even is set of all even Natural numbers, N is set of all Natural numbers. Hint: use the mapping from N eve→Nn N even to N is given by n-->n a. Show examples of this mapping from N even N even to N. b. Is the mapping above onto? One-to-one? My try...
  47. C

    Proving the Existence of F from a Family of Finite Subsets of Natural Numbers

    Homework Statement Let T be a family of finite subsets of the natural numbers N = {1, 2, 3,...} such that if A and B are any members of T, then the intersection of A and B is nonempty. (a) Must N contain a finite subset F such that the intersection of A, B and F is nonempty for any sets A...
  48. C

    Understanding Natural Numbers and Bernoulli's Inequality

    Homework Statement Show that if n belongs to N, and: An: = (1 + 1/n)^n then An < An+1 for all natural n. (Hint, look at the ratios An+1/An, and use Bernoulli's inequality) The Attempt at a Solution I think i have a vague idea of what to do here, like I am sure induction is involved in this...
  49. N

    Consecutive odd natural numbers - one is composite. Prove

    Homework Statement Every triple of consecutive odd natural numbers, with the first being at least 5, contains at least on composite. Homework Equations N/A The Attempt at a Solution I know from number theory that of every set of consecutive odd integers, one of them is divisible...
  50. R

    The minus difference between cubes of two natural numbers is 208

    Homework Statement The difference between cubes of two natural numbers is 208. Which are those two numbers?Homework Equations -The Attempt at a Solution Here is how I set it up. x\widehat{}^{}3 - (x-y)\hat{}3 = 208, which leads to ... x\hat{}2(3y) + x(-3y\hat{}2) + (y\hat{}3 - 208) = 0 I...
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