Rest mass Definition and 103 Threads

  1. S

    How do you know if the rest mass changes or not?

    My book says that if two objects collide completely inelastically, the rest mass of the composite is greater than the sum. I assume this happens because the objects heat up and this is counted in their energy. However, in other problems the book assumes the rest mass of objects/particles is...
  2. L

    Special relativity and rest mass of a photon

    1) How can get work done on a photon because work done = kinetic energy it depends on mass, but the rest mass of a photon is zero 2) From this equation E=PC , does this mean E of a photon is 0 because P must be zero since it depends on mass?
  3. Z

    Can a photon have a rest mass despite being massless?

    I'm new to physics, so I'm sorry if this is a dumb question. If a string cannot be point like, it has measurable spatial dimensions, then it must have mass. Well if a string was vibrating at the resonant frequency of a photon, and at rest it must have mass and therefore a nonzero rest mass. This...
  4. B

    Calculating the rest mass of Ra [simple ]

    Calculating the rest mass of Ra [simple!] Homework Statement Calculate the rest mass of 226/88 Ra.Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution There are 88 protons and 138 neutrons. Therefore, (88*1.007276)+(138*1.008665)=227.8361u But the answer says 226.0254u. It also says 4/2 He is 4.0026u...
  5. L

    Casimir operators and rest mass

    Penrose says in “Cycles of Time” that rest mass isn't exactly a Casimir operator of the de Sitter group, so a very slow decay of rest mass isn't out of the question in our universe. If rest mass is strictly conserved, should it be a Casimir operator of the de Sitter group? Decay of rest...
  6. L

    Eventual disappearance of rest mass

    If the universe were expanding very, very rapidly, would rest mass disappear? I've been reading "Cycles of Time" by Roger Penrose, which is about his "conformal cyclic cosmology" theory. The gist of it is that in the VERY VERY distant future, like a googol of years from now, when all the...
  7. H

    How Is Rest Mass Defined in a Universe with No Absolute Rest?

    hey guys ...i've got a doubt.. when there is no absolute rest in the universe...how is rest mass defined?
  8. S

    Is Rest Mass Conserved by the Conservation of Energy and Momentum?

    From my understanding E=mc2 shows that relativistic mass is equivilent to energy. And hence the conservation of relativistic mass is a restatement of the conservation of energy. Also from my understanding it also indicates that rest mass can be converted into photons. Also I think this...
  9. N

    Rest Mass and Preferred Frame of Reference

    Einstein's theory of relativity is based on the fact that all motion is relative, which precludes the existence of a universally defined state of rest (priviledged reference frame). Einstein also recognises the existence of rest mass. If an object were at its rest mass, wouldn't it be perfectly...
  10. C

    Do Gravitational Fields Increase the Rest Mass of Protons and Photons?

    Does proton diameter increase with the addition of energy, such as thermal energy? I guess this is also to ask if a particle's rest mass can increase. And, if a proton can gain rest mass, does the diameter correlate with it?
  11. P

    Annihilation of two particles / Rest mass energy

    I haven't used the template because I just need some reassurance on understanding a topic, not help with a question! When two particles annihilate (e.g. proton and antiproton), the resulting radiation will have a minimum energy of the sum of the rest mass energies of the two particles, right...
  12. E

    Are Relativistic Mass Calculations Still Relevant in Modern Physics?

    Rest mass ? What on Earth ?! I have a data table given to me by my examining body and it lists the REST mass of a proton and the REST mass of an electron along with their values. My question is why do they specify the REST mass ? Does the mass of either sub atomic particles change when they...
  13. A

    Change in internal energy => change in rest mass

    Consider the following situation. Two particles are initially separated by some distance and are then pulled further apart, thus increasing the potential energy of the system (due to the gravitational force of attraction between them). If I am correct in understanding special relativity, then...
  14. DaTario

    How does thermal energy affect rest mass in Relativity?

    Hi All, According to the basic notions of Relativity, in the reference frame, in which a certain body is at rest, we are allowed to measure the rest mass of this body. Nevertheless, we know from thermodynamics that at temperature T there is a certain amount of disordered microscopic movement...
  15. D

    On fundamental level, rest mass = 0?

    Is rest mass just an illusion? In Proton, for example, most of the rest mass is relativistic mass of quarks, moving at relativistic speeds. Quarks are quite light, but if we go deeper, the rest mass of quark is also an illusion - all particles have rest mass = 0, and what we call mass is...
  16. R

    What is relativistic mass and rest mass

    what is "relativistic mass" and "rest mass".. as far as i know the rest mass is the mass which measured by an observer who is at rest relative to the object (please correct me if this is not right), if this is right... what if when the object is traveling at the exactly same velocity of the...
  17. S

    Is there such thing as rest mass.

    Is there actually a superfluous reason for rest mass. I only ask because clearly as far as I know, all particles have spin, and I am led, (possibly falsly) to assume that so do things such as photons (although we know photons don't have rest mass anyway). Thus if "everything" has spin, (lets...
  18. Z

    Relation between total energy and rest mass

    Is there a direct relation between the relativistic mass (total energy) and rest mass? In other words, can we say a proton has higher rest mass than an electron because a proton-antiproton annihilation would produce that much more energy than electron-positron one? And the ratio of energy...
  19. Z

    Do particles without a rest mass bend spacetime?

    Hi guys, simple question I have: Do particles without a rest mass (including EM radiation) cause spacetime to bend? Or only those with a rest mass have gravity?
  20. J

    Atomic Physics - rest mass of Deuterium

    Homework Statement Calculate the rest mass of Deuterium nucleus. Homework Equations Is it correct to calculate its mass using hydrogen? i.e. 2*rest mass of hydrogen?.. The Attempt at a Solution As stated in textbook, the rest mass of deuterium = 3.34330*10^-27 kg If it is...
  21. K

    Why does a photon have zero rest mass?

    From my reading i am seeing the answer But according to special relativity, light ALWAYS travels with the light speed c, and is NEVER at rest and from this statement i am supposed to gather there is no rest mass. But logic tells me just because light is never at rest, doesn't necessarily...
  22. E

    Total energy at zero rest mass

    According to my physics textbook, the equation E^2=\left(mc^2\right)^2+\left(pc\right)^2 suggests that a particle may have energy and momentum even when it has no rest mass, and that the total energy then is E=pc. This strikes me as odd, since the relativistic momentum of a particle is given by...
  23. T

    Calculating the Rest Mass Energy of One Mole of Neutrons

    Homework Statement What is the rest mass energy of one mole of neutrons? Hint one mole is 6.02 x 1023 particles (avocado's number), and the neutron has mass m=1.675 x 10 -27 kg. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution I wasn't sure of the relationship between moles and...
  24. A

    What is the relationship between electron movement and rest mass?

    Hello all, First off, I am not sure if these questions belong in this category. For a couple of years now I have been interested in physics/quantum mechanics, and a while ago I decided it was probably my main interest. After realizing my school did not offer physics, and therefore not...
  25. K

    Is inertial mass of gas the same as its rest mass

    Suppose we have a box at rest that is filled with a uniform gas. We denote the volume by V and the pressure by p. Suppose next that we apply a small force to the box and accelerate it until it has a speed v. The key question is: Is it harder to accelerate the gas because it takes work not only...
  26. R

    Why is the rest mass of photons 0?

    In the article "Why does light have invarient speed?" on PF (first URL in attached file), there is a statement that for photons, m_0 = m \sqrt{1 - \frac{v^2}{c^2}} is 0 since v = c. (I'm not sure if the author is stating this or quoting somebody else.) Is this a valid...
  27. snoopies622

    Expression for the total energy of a particle of rest mass

    I am looking for an expression for the total energy of a particle of rest mass m_0 that includes kinetic and gravitational potential, if there is such a thing. If I take the product of the time-components of the four-velocity and four-momentum vectors, I get m_0 c^2 \gamma^2 where...
  28. F

    Why Can't Photons Have Rest Mass?

    I understand photons have no rest mass, but I also learned in my physics class p=h/(lambda), and that mass depends on the frequency, my question is why can't something moving at c have rest mass if it can have... momentum I suppose is the term...
  29. D

    Negative Rest Mass: Faster than Light?

    Theoretically, if an object were to have negative rest mass, would it travel faster than light?
  30. I

    Calculating Invariant Mass Using Momentum and Rest Mass

    Hello, I'm working on this problem and I'd like to know how to find the invariant mass using just the lab-frame momentum and rest mass. I've found a lot of equations that deal with E, and I'm not completely sure what that is either. Thanks
  31. B

    Maximum Helium Fraction: Neutron Decay Time & Rest Mass Difference

    Suppose the neutron decay time n was 89 sec. AND the difference in rest mass between neutron to proton, Qn, was 0.129 MeV. What would the maximum Helium fraction, Yp, be?
  32. U

    Upper limit on the rest mass of neutrinos if. .

    How can cosmology set an upper limit on the rest mass of neutrinos if we know that the universe contains about 450 neutrinos per cubic centimeter?
  33. D

    How can we calculate a rest mass?

    If we can't find a frame of total rest, how can we calculate a rest mass?
  34. Q

    Can a Particle with Rest Mass Travel at the Speed of Light?

    What is the rest mass m of a particle traveling with the speed of light in the laboratory frame? i believe m = (E² - (pc)²)^.5 / c² is the correct equation to use? as velocity goes up, so does energy and momentum? so when velocity is at speed of light, E = infinity and momentum = infinity...
  35. S

    Can Dark Matter Be Explained by a New Nonrelativistic Fermion?

    The mass of sun is determined by measuring the distance of a planet from the sun,the speed of that planet around the sun ,and then using Newtons law of gravity.In the same fashion one can determine the distribution of mass in a galaxy by observing the position adn motion of the stars in that...
  36. D

    Scalar Gravitational Theory with Variable Rest Mass

    ABSTRACT In this paper we will present the mechanical dynamics of a gravitational system resulting from a specific, rest mass, scalar potential relation, that is equivalent in predicting orbital and photon motion to that of General Relativity in the weak field solutions. The weak solutions of...
  37. B

    Find the rest mass M. of the composite particle

    A particle of rest mass m. and kinetic energy 2m.c^2 strikes and sticks to a stationary particle of rest mass 2m.. Find the rest mass M. of the composite particle. (.=zero subscript) The answer is (17)^1/2(m.)
  38. B

    Is there a quanta of rest mass? say multiples of electron mass?

    charge is quantized. what about rest mass? do particles of the standard model have rest mass that is quantized, and comes in quantas of mass, with i imagine the electron being the lowest that have rest mass (the neutrino does not appearl to have a rest mass) do particles of the standard...
  39. B

    Is there a quanta of rest mass? say multiples of electron mass?

    do particles of the standard model have rest mass that is quantized, and comes in quantas of mass, with i imagine the electron being the lowest that have rest mass (the neutrino does not appearl to have a rest mass) ? please move to other more appropriate forum
  40. S

    Electron Rest Mass: Inverse Proportion to Nuclear Distance

    Why is the relation between an electrons rest mass inversely proportional to its distance from the nucleus (sp)? Thanks, -scott
  41. F

    K* Meson: Rest Mass to Relativistic Momentum

    The excited K* meson has a rest mass of 1.5828E-27 kg/ a What is the rest amss energy in joules? 1.43E-10 b What is this energy in MeVs? 893.75 here's where i need help c Now these K* are accelerated to a speed of 2.97E8 m/sec. What is the relatavistic mass of these K* in kg and MeV/c...
  42. E

    E=mc^2 no object with rest mass can ever reach the speed of light?

    How does E = mc^2 imply that no object with rest mass can ever reach the speed of light?
  43. D

    Does an electron have a known diameter and rest mass?

    I'm still very confused to some extent. I know that from QM, an electron, due to Heisenbergs UP can't be measured definitely. It is following Schrödingers equation, and is presented as a vector in Hilbert space ,i.e. in a "electron cloud" of propability. But here my theory is incomplete...
  44. S

    What explains the increase in mass at high speeds?

    relativistic mass is defined by the lorentz contraction equations (i.e time & legnth). but why should mass increase only for speeds very close to c? is there any theory that explains this? we know that rest mass is basically the resistance to acceleration and the higgs theory postulates...
  45. I

    What is Rest Mass? Explaining Photon Mass Zero

    what is rest mass? why does a photon have rest mass zero? :rolleyes:
  46. H

    Finding Speed & Momentum of a Moving Particle with Double Rest Mass

    a moving particle has a rest mass which is double its kinetic energy. Find its speed and momentum..=)
  47. R

    Photon had a non-zero rest mass, based on measured helicity values?

    Hi, got an exam tomorrow for particle physics and need a question answered concerning helicity. How would it be possible to determine if a photon had a non-zero rest mass, based on measured helicity values? Thanks Ray
  48. quasar987

    What causes space curves? Energy or rest mass?

    If it's energy, a photon must curve space. If it's rest mass a photon doesn't curve space and an object going at speed 0.99c doesn't curve space more than when it's not moving. A friend of mine asked me this question after asking two of his profs at McGill University and getting two...
  49. K

    Do Higgs particles have the same mass and short lifetimes as other particles?

    Are Higgs particles all the same mass? Does a proton have more Higgs particles associated with its rest mass than an electron has associated with its rest mass? And does the mass of all Higgs particles equal the total rest mass of the universe? Do Higgs particles have short lifetimes like...
  50. TeV

    Neutrino Rest Mass: From 0 to Unknown

    Back in 1960's ,one could frequently hear opinions/claims that neutrino rest mass is 0.Not a very small one ,but exactly=0.Therefore,a nutrino would just like photons propagate at light velocity through the space. What has changed in a meantime (since decade -two), except better insight to...
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