Second order Definition and 602 Threads

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    Second Order Predicate Logic vs. First Order

    Hey, I'm studying Predicate Logic at the moment and I can't seem to wrap my head around the way that english sentences would convert into second order logic. What kind of sentence can be faithfully represented in PL2 but not in PL1? Sorry if this isn't the appropriate section; I'm actually in...
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    Particular Solution to a Second Order Ordinary Differential Equation

    Homework Statement Find the Particular Solution to the differential Equation satisfying the initial conditions. y''+7y'+10y= -30 y(0)= 3 y'(0) = -27Homework Equations Characteristic Equation for Homogenous Solution y''+7y'+10y=0 roots are -2 and -5 General Solution is C1e^-2t + C2e^-5t...
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    MATLAB Help with Matlab solving second order differential equations

    I am a Matlab rookie. I need to solve numerically the following second order differential equations d^2x/dt^2 + w0_(el) * x = e/m_e * E - K3/m_e * x *y; d^2y/dt^2 + w0_(v) * y = - K_3/2M * x^2; I have started to deal with only the harmonic part of the problem. So I tried to solve...
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    Second order correction to the wavefunction

    Hi all, I've been doing a lot of thinking and I was wondering precisely how the 2nd order correction to the wave function from perturbation theory is derived: I mean, I can see where bits and pieces come from and I've tried to work through it as an exercise. Does anyone have a...
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    Second Order Linear Nonhomogeneous Differential Equations

    Homework Statement y''+7y'=392sin(7t)+686cos(7t) with y(0)=4 and y'(0)=9 Homework Equations No real relevant equations The Attempt at a Solution I assumed since the g(t) has function of both sine and cosine the solution would be both the real and non real parts of the solution to...
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    Second order linear differential equations nonhomogeneous equations

    I could not get LaTex to format properly, so I typed out the question and my work using Microsoft Word's equation editor. Please see the attached document, apologies for any inconvenience! These problems involve the techniques for the method of undetermined coefficients and variation of parameters.
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    Second order differential nonhomogeneous equation with gaussian term

    Hello forum, I am trying to solve a differential equation for the last four hours and I can't figure out how... here it is \frac{d^2x(t)}{dt^2} + \frac{dx(t)}{dt} + c x(t) = d e^{-a t^2} actually my problem is how to handle the Gaussian term... if anyone can help please...
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    Trouble with a second order differential equation

    Hello all, I'm having a little trouble getting the Latex to work, so I'm hoping this won't be too hard for everyone to understand. Homework Statement I am given the second order differential equation x2*y''(x)+(2*b+1)*x*y'(x)+c*y(x) = 0 Use the transform x=ez to find the general solution...
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    Second Order Linear Differential Equation Question

    Homework Statement Solve the IVP, \frac{1}{4}y'' + 16y = 0 y(0)=\frac{1}{4} y'(0)=0 Answer is given... y(t) = \frac{1}{4}cos 8t Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution This has the characteristic equation \frac{1}{4} \lambda^2 +16\lambda=0 Solving for lambda, I got...
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    Is a first order reaction always slower than a second order reaction

    This is a concept question i was wondering. in what instances would this be true and in what instances would this be false. im in general chem 2.
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    Second order differential equation

    Hi, i need help solving this equation: y'' + 4y' + 4y = 0 any help is appreciated!
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    Second order differential equation

    Homework Statement Let V denote a vector space of twice differentiable functions on R. Define a linear map L on V by the formula: L(u)=au''+bu'+cu Suppose that u_{1},u_{2} is a basis for the solution space of L(u)=0. Find a basis for the solution space of the fourth order equation L(L(u))=0...
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    Help to stregnthen laplace and second order diff eq beckground

    Homework Statement Here is my issue. I am an EE student that has been part time for almost five years. I took diff eq and signals a long time ago. I am currently taking a feedback and controls class, and my lack of memory in these topics is killing my study time. I am looking for relevant...
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    Solving 2nd Order ODE: Even Function Solution

    Could you please help me or give me any hint to solve this ODE.. \frac{d^2y}{d x^2} + ( 2\rm{sech}^2 x - a^2 ) y = 0 where a is a constant. I want only even function solution. (y(x) = y(-x)) BTW, this is a homework problem. I encountered this equation while considering surface waves...
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    Solution to Second Order Coupled PDE in x,y,z, and time

    I'm trying to solve equation in the attached pdf, which describes anistropic diffusion in 3D with an additional term to account for hydrogen bonding and unbonding of the diffusing substance to the medium. I've considered Laplace transforms, then solving in the Laplace domain, then inverting...
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    Evaluate integral of second order differential

    Homework Statement Evaluate \int^{2\pi}_{0}\frac{1}{r}\frac{d^{2}f}{d\varphi^{2}}d\varphi Homework Equations n/a The Attempt at a Solution I get the integral as \frac{1}{r}\frac{df}{d\varphi} Not sure how to evaluate this.
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    MATLAB Second Order Differential Equations in MatLab

    Hey guys, I am new to PF. I need to be able to model a stiff differential equation in MatLab. I haven't used MatLab before so I am not really sure how to set the function and boundary conditions for the equation: y'' + (2/x)*Y' = (.7/x^2)*( (y^(-1/2)) - (.067)((1-y)^(-1/2) ) y(0)=0...
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    Nonhomogeneous Second Order ODE containing log

    Hi guy, I have this ODE that I'm having problems with y"+4y'+4y= e^(-2x)logx Now, Using method of UC to get rid of the RHS I've tried using Ae^(-2x) x^2 logx However, I'm not quite sure whether that is correct or not as I have never had a question containing logs before
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    Application of perfectly matched layer transformation to second order derivative

    Hello I am going to post here a problem that I've been working on for quite some time, and I haven't managed to obtain a good answer. To approximate free-field conditions in the numerical solution of wave equation PDEs, the following coordinate transformation is often applied to implement...
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    Help toward solving second order non-linear differential equation

    Hi, I have a differential equation of the form d2 x ---------------- = g/z * x(t) dt2 Here g and z are constants. So, this is a 2nd order ODE which has a closed form solution. In fact, i know the solution for x in terms of cosh and sinh functions. In the above differential...
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    Separation of variables for second order DE

    Hi. I believe I understand separation of variables for a first order DE. But can anyone tell me how to use it on a second order DE? In particular I have been looking at this example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrating_factor#General_use" where it is claimed that one can use separation of...
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    Engineering RLC Circuit Second Order Differential and Laplace

    Homework Statement Derive the second order differential equation relating x(t) and y(t). Using the Laplace transform, find the total response as a function of the zero input response and the zero state response in the following form.Homework Equations Y(s)=Yzs(s) + Yzi(s) The Attempt at a...
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    Solve second order diff equation using substitution

    Homework Statement d2y/dx2-dy/dx+y*exp(2x) = x*exp(2x)-1 substitute t=exp(x) and set z(t)=y(x) and rewrite hence find all solutions The Attempt at a Solution Rewriting gives: d2z/dt2-dz/dt+z*t^2=(ln(t) * t^2) - 1 however I don't see how this in any way helps us...
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    Finding solution to second order non linear dif. equation with IV

    Hi, I'm trying to solve this exercise: 0=<x=<a D*C''(x)= A*C(x)/ [K+C(x)] D, A and K are constants and we know the following IV: C(0)= Known (number) C''(a)=0 Do you have any idea how I may proceed with this?
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    Reducing Order of ODE Ly with Ansatz y2: Find u to Solve

    Ly ≡ (x +1)^2y′′− 4(x +1)y′+6y =0 given y[1]=(x+1)^2 is a solution, use the ansatz y2(x)= u(x)(x+1)2 to reduce the order of the differential equation and find a second independent solution y2 how to reduce !? and i can't find u ...can't solve (x+1)^2u''+6u=0 please help! thx!
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    Question About Non-Linear Second Order Differential Equation

    Hi, I just had my ordinary differential equation final exam today (summer class), the exam was fine. We had a bonus question though, it was a nonlinear second order differential equation, we didn't learn anything about those except for one existence and uniqueness theorem. I am curious if I got...
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    Second order differential equation via substitution

    Homework Statement Substitute p = \frac{dx}{dt} to solve x\prime\prime + \omega^2x = 0 Homework Equations \frac{dp}{dx} = v + x\frac{dv}{dx} v = \frac{p}{x} The Attempt at a Solution p = \frac{dx}{dt}, \frac{dp}{dt} = \frac{d^2x}{dt^2} \frac{dp}{dt} = \frac{dp}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt} =...
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    Solving non-linear second order ODE

    Homework Statement It will be great if someone could show me some options: I need to prove the following: A particle of mass m is attracted toward a fixed point O (the origin) with a force proportional to its instantaneous distance from O raised to a positive integer power, i.e...
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    Engineering Second Order Circuit Analysis - Mesh - Issue with DE Setup

    Hi, I am sure I have mistaken my DE setup or my initial conditions assumption. Homework Statement http://ivila.net/E8.png R1 will be the middle Resistor R2 the top one. Homework Equations i1' + R1/L i1 = R1/L i2 i2(R1+R2)*1/(R1) + 1/(R1*C)*integral(i2)=i1 The Attempt at a...
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    Second order nonlinear ODE - not autonomous

    second order nonlinear ODE -- not autonomous This equation has arisen from a steady state problem of diffusion with nonlinear reaction: (dependent var=c; independent variable=x) c'' = ko + k1 c + k2 c^2 + k3 c x ko, etc are constants. I can obtain a solution if I drop the last term...
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    Second Order Inhomogeneous ODE.

    Homework Statement Solve the following equation f'' - 3f' + 2f = 3 For f(0) = 0,\ and\ f'(0) = 1 Homework Equations None. The Attempt at a Solution Ok, so, I know how to solve inhomogeneous ODEs when it's on this form af'' + bf' + cf = g Where g is a given function. But how do I...
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    Series Solutions of Second Order Linear Equations

    Homework Statement (1+x2)y'' - 4xy' + 6y = 0 Homework Equations I'm going to assume y can be written as [n=0 to ∞] ∑anxn The Attempt at a Solution y = [n=0 to ∞] ∑anxn ----> y' = [n=0 to ∞] ∑(n+1)an+1xn ----> y'' = [n=0 to ∞] ∑(n+2)(n+1)an+2xn ---->...
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    Second order differential equation

    show that y1(x) = e^(2+i)x and y2(x) = e^(2-i)x, i=sqrt(-1) are two linearly independent functions hence obtain a second order linear differential equation with constant coefficients each that y1(x) and y2(x) are its two fundamental solutions. my attempt : for the first part, I use the...
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    How to Solve and Verify Second Order Inhomogeneous ODEs?

    Hello All, I am stuck on the following question. Can you please help to find the solutions Using the complementary function and particular integral method, find the solution of the diffential equation which satisfies y(0) = 1 and y'(0) = 0. y'' + 3y' + 2y = 20cos2x and then can you...
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    Second order DE involving repeat roots

    ok, for 2nd order differential equations, if we have repeat roots, like for example y" +4y = cos2x , we would have repeat roots +2i,-2i. so how do we try for the particular solution? i tried Acos2x + Bsin2x, it all canceled out. i tried (Ax+B)cos2x + (Cx+D)sin2x it all canceled out too then...
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    Solve a system of second order PDE

    I need to solve the following system of differential equations: \frac{\partial^2 y}{\partial t^2} + A\frac{\partial y}{\partial t} - B \frac{\partial^2 y}{\partial z^2} = Cq \frac{\partial^2 q}{\partial t^2} + D\frac{\partial q}{\partial t} + q = E\frac{\partial^2 y}{\partial t^2}...
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    Second order differential equation

    Homework Statement if given the general solution to a differential equation y(t)=a cos t + b sin t + ((cos wt)/1-w^2), Find out how long it takes the solution to approach the steady state solution. original second order differential equation: y'' + y = cos wt such that 0 < w < 10...
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    System of second order linear homogenous differential coupled equations

    my question is: what is the general solution of this system of coupled diff. equations: f ''i = Cijfj C is a matrix, fj(z) are functions dependent of z.
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    Second order linear differential equations

    Homework Statement a) ẍ + 5ẋ + 4x = 0 x(0) = 0, ẋ(0)=1 What type of damping? b) ẍ + x = cos(t) x(0) = 0, ẋ(0)= 1 What type of motion? The Attempt at a Solution a) Let x = R Eᴿᵀ R = -4 R = -1 x(t) = CE**-4T + DE**-t C + D = 0 -4C - D = 1 C = 1/5 D = 1/5 And it is...
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    Second order Sigma Delta modulator

    Hi everybody, I'm reading about sigma delta adc, the base theory. I've read about the first order modulator and now the second order, but I have a problem (maybe stupid) with a phrase of my book (Data Converters by F.Maloberti), when he describe the 'passage' from first order to second order...
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    Help with deriving transfer function of a second order control system

    Homework Statement Please see attachment for block diagram of the system. Starting with the block diagram given in Figure 2 derive an expression for the overall transfer function of the system, where Gc(s) is in the form given by Eq. (1). Show that the system is a Second Order system...
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    Relationship between second order odes and pdes

    Hello. I took a class on ODEs and learned about solving second order homologous equations by writing down the characteristic equation. http://www.sosmath.com/diffeq/second/constantcof/constantcof.html I am now learning about PDEs on my own and I came across parabolic, hyperbolic, and...
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    General solution of second order differential equaiton.

    Homework Statement Show that: \theta (\xi) = 1-\frac{1}{6} \xi^2 + \frac{n}{120} \xi^4 +... is a general solution to the Lane-Emden equation. (assuming that the above equation converges) Homework Equations Lane-Emden equation: \frac{1}{\xi^2}\frac{d}{d \xi} \left ( \xi^2...
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    Solving a special type of a second order differential equation

    Homework Statement y''[x] = y'[x] + x Homework Equations We were taught two special types of second order diff. equations: Type 1: Supposed to be when x is missing v = y'[x] v'[x] = y''[x] Type 2: Supposed to be when y is missing v = y'[x] v v'[x] = y''[x] The Attempt at...
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    Can Second Order Non-linear ODEs Like This Be Solved Analytically?

    Hello, I was wondering if anyone could shed some light upon solving this: s(x)'' = (a b s(x)) / ||s(x)||^3 Where s is a n dimensional vector, || || is operation finding the magnitude and a and b are constants. Is this solveable or will I have to use alternative numerical methods?
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    Stuck on second order non-linear ODE

    Out of boredom* I derived some simplified equations to describe the dynamics of a pneumatic gun. These equations are extremely simplified, but they should provide some insight into the system that my numerical models can't. This system had one non-linear equation that could be rewritten as the...
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    Solving 2nd Order ODE for k: 20dx²/dt² + dx/dt + kx = 0

    Find k: 20\frac{d^2x}{dt^2} + \frac{dx}{dt} + kx = 0 when t = 0 - x = 1 - dx/dt = 1 My attempt at this in maxima: (%i1) 20*'diff( 'diff(x, t), t) + 'diff(x, t) + k*x = 0; 2 d x dx (%o1) 20 --- + -- +...
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    Doing 3 second order differential equations numerically

    I want to write a program in C that's going to solve 3 second order differential equations, and I have little to no experience in solving differential equations in C (however, I know C well enough). I'm having a bit of trouble. First of all, I don't really know what method I'm going to use to...
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    Second order differential equation

    Homework Statement What is the general solution to y'' - 2(y')^2 = 0 ? Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution Let u = y ' u ' - 2u^2 = 0 u ' = 2u^2 u = (2 / 3)u^3 + C This cannot be solved using separation of variables, what is done?
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