Uncertainty principle Definition and 541 Threads

  1. ShayanJ

    Uncertainty principle in classical optics

    As you know,a pure sine wave extends infinitely in both directions and a wave which is the composition of some different frequencies,has a limited extent.Does it mean that such a wave is a pulse moving in space or it has limited range?(I know its crazy to talk about the range of light,but I've...
  2. M

    Understanding Uncertainty Principle

    Hello All, I want to understand uncertainty principle. I understand that when we measure x accurately we cannot measure p with that accuracy. The process of measuring x accurately might like this: some detector fires high energy photon to that small particle, and we can know x accurately. But...
  3. R

    Uncertainty Principle & Particles Giving Off Light

    If a particle gives off its own light, how can we never know its position as well as its momentum, as we can see it and thus measure its speed, and know its velocity? How does the Uncertainty Principle treat this circumstance?
  4. StevieTNZ

    Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle

    From what I've gathered reading the scientific literature, the more precise we know a quantum system's position, the more uncertain the momentum becomes. Does the uncertainty principle place a limit on how well we can know a system's position when we measure that observable? I've read...
  5. C

    Uncertainty principle and particle accelerators

    Fairly simple question but it's been bugging me for a while: Particle accelerators such as the LHC publish some impressive images of the tracks of particles in their detectors. Can someone explain why that is possible considering the uncertainty principle?
  6. M

    Heisenberg Uncertainty principle in 3D

    Hi there, So here's my assignment: ''The velocity of a positron is measured to be: vx=(4.00±0.18)*105 m/s, vy=(0.34±0.12)*105 m/s, vz=(1.41±0.08)*105 m/s. Within what minimum volume was the positron located at the moment the measurement was carried out?'' I think I'm not wrong when I say that...
  7. J

    Uncertainty principle and information theory

    does the fact that there is a limit on how much can be observed on electrons location and momentum have anything to do with the finiteness and conservation of information? is the total momentum plus location of an electron unknown to us or is it also unknown to the universe? meaning, does...
  8. S

    Quantum mechanics uncertainty principle

    Homework Statement If a neutron is confined to the nucleus, its wave function – and therefore the probability of finding it at a certain position – has a characteristic width, Δx, equivalent to the nucleus diameter. What is the uncertainty in the neutron momentum Δp as a function of...
  9. L

    What is the Commutator of Position and Momentum in Different Dimensions?

    Homework Statement Calculate [x,px] = (xpx - pxx) Do this for a function f(x). Now calculate [x,py] for f(x,y) Homework Equations px is actually px hat, I'm just not familiar with latex code. px= -i (d/dx) The Attempt at a Solution I believe I got the first part, for...
  10. C

    Uncertainty Principle: Computing Δx & Δp for a Particle in a 1D Box

    Homework Statement The uncertainty ΔB in some observable B is given by a formula ΔB = √<B^2> - <B>^2. Use this formula to determine the uncertainty in position, Δx, and momentum Δp, for the ground state of a quantum-mechanical particle of mass m is a 1-D 'box' of length a, and show that the...
  11. H

    Use Uncertainty principle to find gound state energy?

    Homework Statement A particle of mass m is subjected to a potential V(x)=Kx.Use uncertainty principle in the form Δx.Δp≈h(bar)/2 to estimate ground state energy of the particle. The Attempt at a Solution I have no idea. :(
  12. G

    Uncertainty principle and single slit experiment

    hi my concern is, that there is a huge amount of equations that are somehow related to the uncertainty principle and it is not straightforwardly obvious to me, when i have to use which of them. let me put it this way: as far as i see, there is this overall applicable equation that says ΔxΔp ≥...
  13. A

    Question on uncertainty principle

    If I understand correctly, the uncertainty principle works, because in order to measure the position accurately, you need a smaller wavelength. But observing with a particle with smaller wavelength means observing with a particle with larger momentum. Therefore, when the observation is made by...
  14. A

    Electron and the uncertainty principle

    I completely understand the uncertainty principle and why we can't pinpoint the exact location of an electron. but what if we could?? would it be important that would could find the location of an electrom? would we know more about atoms?
  15. ShayanJ

    Proof of uncertainty principle

    Is there a mathematical or physical proof for uncertainty principle other than the one that says if you want to observe a particle you should collide with it,a photon and blah blah blah ? I can't accept that as a proof.Because It falls if you find another way of measuring the position of the...
  16. A

    Violation of uncertainty principle?

    Suppose I have an electron gun that shoots electron with momentum p (no uncertainty) at t=0, then at t=t0 I can calculate the exact location of my electron, with no uncertainty. Violation of uncertainty principle?
  17. A

    Is the Uncertainty Principle affected by the number of particles in a system?

    To my understanding Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, states that we do not exist due to the fact that atoms("what we are made of") are not present, when they are not consciously observed. Please elaborate.
  18. D

    Uncertainty principle, virtual particle pairs and energy

    I'm a bit confused about how the uncertainty principle allows for the spontaneous creation and annihilation of virtual particle pairs. I can understand that energy conservation can be violated for a very short time as per delta_e*delta_t > h_bar/2. However, when the virtual particle pair...
  19. S

    Use Uncertainty Principle to estimate the size of the H atom

    Homework Statement In Bohr model of the hydrogen atom, the max. kinetic energy that an electron can have is around 13.6 eV, as it would otherwise not be confined to the atom. Uncertainty Principle: ΔxΔy ≥ h/2π a) Find the max. momentum of such confined electron. b) Use Uncertainty Principle...
  20. M

    Energy time uncertainty principle

    how Energy time uncertainty principle account for the broadening of a level? thanks in advance
  21. D

    A thought on Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle

    Let me first start off by saying that I am somewhat new to physics and it's understanding. But I was looking over the Hiesenberg Uncertainty Princple and a thought occurred to me. The Heisenberg Unvertainty Principle states "More precisely the position is determined, the less precise the...
  22. K

    Linewidth of emission and the uncertainty principle

    Homework Statement The linewidth of a certain fluorescing dye molecule is 60nm and the peak emission wavelength is 600nm. The lifetime of the dye molecule in the excited state is 1ns. Determine whether the linewidth of the emission is a result of the uncertainty principle. (it may be helpful...
  23. V

    Is Heisenberg uncertainty principle a problem of our measuring techniques?

    Hello I know this topic must have been done to death already, but i can't seem to find a satisfying answer. As the title suggests, my question is, what experiment proves that the uncertainty principle is not just a result of our flawed measuring techniques? From what i understand, when we...
  24. W

    Using uncertainty principle to estimate ground state energy

    Homework Statement Use the uncertainty principle to estimate the ground state energy of a particle of mass "m" is moving in a linear potential given by V(x) = ∞ for x≤ 0 V(x) = αx for x ≥ 0 Homework Equations ΔxΔp ≥ h/2 The Attempt at a Solution I've looked at a similar problem...
  25. J

    Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle

    Homework Statement An electron is confined within a region of atomic dimensions on the order to 10-10 m. Compute the uncertainty in its momentum. Homework Equations N/A The Attempt at a Solution I know this problem involves a simple application of Heisenberg's uncertainty...
  26. R

    Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, Determinism and Free Will

    Heisenberg's uncertainty principle only seems to have implications for our understanding of the body of knowledge produced by science, not reality itself. The uncertainty comes from the inability to make two separate measurements, since each measurement will disturb the system and change the...
  27. G

    Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, find uncertainty in position

    Homework Statement Using Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, calculate the uncertainty in the position of a proton moving at a speed of (5.00±0.01) x 10^4 m/s. Homework Equations Δx\geq \frac{h}{4mΔv\pi} The Attempt at a Solution x\geq (6.626*10^-34)/(4pi(1.6726*10^-24)(5±0.01 *...
  28. R

    Trying to understand Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle in a physical sense

    I'm trying to understand the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, as it relates to experimental measurements, because it's kind of confusing me. We just learned the derivations for it in my QM class -- basically it's two standard deviations multiplied together (corresponding to measurements of...
  29. A

    How can the uncertainty principle and relativity coexist?

    The uncertainty principle says that you can't simultaneously measure position and momentum with arbitrary precision. So you can measure one at a time t1 and the other at a time t2 with t2 > t1, thus not measuring both simultaneously, but relativity tell us that there exists a frame of reference...
  30. C

    Large Scale Uncertainty Principle

    Hi, I was watching Through the Wormhole two weeks ago (I think it was a re-run), and they were talking about the uncertainty principle, and how it was impossible to prove due to the change in momentum of a particle when hit with an observation device, such as light. I think the guy was using...
  31. C

    Do we have Any idea why the uncertainty principle occurs?

    I understood the Delayed Eraser experiment, and the Eraser experiment and the basic double slit experiment. And all I can conclude is, why? Why is there such a necessity? I now understand that it's most probably impossible to learn the 2 properties at the same time but I don't see any...
  32. C

    Question on Uncertainty Principle

    If Uncertainty Principle is a result of 'fiddling' of an apparatus with what is being observed (for example light particle/wave of a detector fiddling with particles/waves being observed), then wouldn't uncertainty principle cease to apply if in the future a 'smaller' or 'less interfering'...
  33. R

    Uncertainty principle and electrons

    I've been exposed to two different interpretations of the uncertainty principle. 1) If an electron is in a certain state, a measurement of its position will yield a definite result. However, if after the measurement the electron could be returned to the same state, then a repeated measurement...
  34. L

    Does the Uncertainty Principle Make Precise Momentum Measurement Impossible?

    Hi all, I am sure this is a quite simple question but I just can't figure it out, any helps would be greatly appreciated. If a particle stay in a state in a very short time, then by energy time uncertainty relation, it's energy must has a great uncertainty. Also because of energy is propotion...
  35. BWV

    Uncertainty principle discrete operators

    couple of questions a) the operators not commuting would also be true of position and momentum operators in classical mechanics (x d/dx -d/dx x) f(x) so the non-commutation does not inherently constitute a proof for the uncertainty principle, or do you just not care about the uncertainty at...
  36. S

    Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle

    Here's how I understand it: The light of a shorter wavelength disturbs the momentum of the electron, but shows the electron's position. Why doesn't the light of a longer wavelength disturb the momentum of the electron?
  37. M

    Paradox: The infinite square well vs. the Uncertainty Principle

    I've come across an apparent paradox in elementary quantum mechanics, and after a little Googling, haven't found a reference to it. Here goes, The 1-D infinite square well is a classic problem in introductory QM. We find that the position-space eigenfunctions of the Hamiltonian (the "allowed...
  38. J

    Exploring Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle: Intuition & Explanations

    You are no doubt familiar with Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, putting a limit on the accuracy with which we can measure a particle's position and momentum, \Delta x \Delta p \geq \hbar/2 On my course I was shown the derivation, it popped out of a few lines of mathematics involving the...
  39. S

    Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle: Exploring Possibilities

    Hello everyone. This is my first post, but I enjoy reading all the forums. I have a simple question that I thought about recently: Would Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle still hold up if we could somehow observe a particle without the aid of instruments? I know it is entirely...
  40. K

    Photon flight times and the uncertainty principle

    Ok I feel a bit silly asking about this, but I have gotten myself confused and need some help sorting something out. In QFT the operators of observable quantities commute over space-like intervals, so we cannot propagate effects faster than light, causality is safe, cool. But I have somewhat...
  41. N

    What is the meaning of uncertainty principle in QTF?

    Please teach me this: In Quantum Mechanics the Heizenbeg principle holds for one particle.In QTF Theory,the creation and annihilation operators corresonding to coefficients of Fourier components of transformation,so it seem that each quantum(particle) has a definite momentum.Then it seem that...
  42. stevmg

    Explaining the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle and Electron Orbits

    It is stated that electrons orbit the nuclei of atoms not as particles. By the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle (whatever that is) one cannot pinpoint their actual location and one cannot track the motion of an electron as it orbits the nucleus. What is that all about? Please use 10th...
  43. C

    What is Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle?

    What is Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle?? Homework Statement Hey everyone, Until very recently, I had always thought that Heisenberg's uncertainty principle was that \Delta x \Delta p \geq \frac{h}{2\pi} (or \hbar) However, I'm doing my final year of high school physics this year...
  44. K

    QUICK QUESTION about uncertainty principle:

    First: If subatomic particles have momentum, then don't objects at rest have momentum [since they are made of these momentous particles] ? My main question is: If the position of an electron is uncertain, then isn't the position of an object NOT constant? Even to the slightest degree? Thanks...
  45. A

    Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle Meaning

    I am new, and I don't have a physics background, so please excuse the question if it is incredibly easy... Does the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle mean that we just can't measure the location of an electron to perfect accuracy, but such a location does exit (we just can't know what it is)...
  46. P

    Uncertainty principle and Einstein's thought experiments

    Recently, I have a look of the Einstein's thought experiments challenging the uncertainty principle. One of the experiments is the Einstein's slit. I found the description about it : "Consider a particle passing through a slit of width d. The slit introduces an uncertainty in momentum of...
  47. A

    Uncertainty Principle in Classical Physics

    I have often seen it stated that the Uncertainty Principle (UP) is a unique feature of Quantum Physics, but surely it applies classically too? For example, if someone throws a ball across a room, and I take a photo with a shutter speed of 1 second, the resultant photo will tell me a lot about...
  48. H

    How do you explain the Heisenberg uncertainty principle?

    So to determine the position of an object you can scatter light off of it. Fine. But then my textbook says you can't know the exact position of the object because of diffraction effects. We've covered the diffraction of light through narrow slits but I don't know why if you were scattering light...
  49. J

    Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle position and momentum

    Homework Statement Heisenberg's uncertainty principle states that you cannot simultaneously know the position and momentum of an object. In this video link, a laser is aimed through a slot and projected onto a wall. As the slot gets narrower, the projection also gets narrower. Eventually...
  50. C

    Uncertainty Principle and Fourier Transforms

    Hey I'm hoping for some help in understanding the relationship between ##\delta x \delta p \geq h## and ##\delta k \delta x \approx 1##. I know the second describes the relationship between span of a wave packet and the frequencies used in a series representation of a Gaussian function. I...
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