A problem that has force, friction on an incline

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving a block of mass m on an inclined plane, acted on by a horizontal force F. The task is to find an expression for F that will enable the block to move up the plane with constant velocity, and determine the relation between \theta and \mu for this solution to be physically meaningful. The mistake in the reasoning was not considering the perpendicular component of the applied force, and the answer can be obtained by setting the denominator of the equation to be positive. Finally, it is suggested to always draw a diagram and mark the angles to help with problem solving.
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A block of mass m, acted on by a force of magnitude F directed horizontally to the right as shown above, slides up an inclined plane that makes an angle [tex]\theta[/tex] with the horizontal. The coefficient of sliding friction between the block and the plane is [tex]\mu[/tex].

The picture is that of an incline, [tex]\theta[/tex] on the left of the incline, mass m on the incline, and a horizontal force is applied to m directed right.

Develop an expression for the magnitude of the force F that will allow the block to slide up the plane with constant velocity. What relation must [tex]\theta[/tex] and [tex]\mu[/tex] satisfy in order for this solution to be physically meaningful.




This is what I did. (wrong according to the answer)

F = ma
mgsin[tex]\theta[/tex] + [tex]\mu[/tex]mgcos[tex]\theta[/tex] - Fcos[tex]\theta[/tex] = 0
Fcos[tex]\theta[/tex] = mg(sin[tex]\theta[/tex] + [tex]\mu[/tex]cos[tex]\theta[/tex])
F = mg(sin[tex]\theta[/tex] + cos[tex]\theta[/tex]) / cos[tex]\theta[/tex]

This is how I reasoned: If it's moving up at a constant velocity, Fcos[tex]\theta[/tex] should equal mgsin[tex]\theta[/tex] + friction ([tex]\mu[/tex]gcos[tex]\theta[/tex])




This is what the answer is supposed to be:

F = mg([tex]\mu[/tex]cos[tex]\theta[/tex] + sin[tex]\theta[/tex]) / (cos[tex]\theta[/tex] - [tex]\mu[/tex]sin[tex]\theta[/tex])

F > 0 => cos[tex]\theta[/tex] > sin[tex]\theta[/tex]
tan[tex]\theta[/tex] = 1/[tex]\mu[/tex]




What mistake did I make in my reasoning and where did the answer come from?
 
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musicfairy said:
F = ma
mgsin[tex]\theta[/tex] + [tex]\mu[/tex]mgcos[tex]\theta[/tex] - Fcos[tex]\theta[/tex] = 0
Since the applied force has a component perpendicular to the plane, the normal force is not simply [itex]mg \cos\theta[/itex].

(Also: It's much easier if you write your entire equation using Latex, not just some pieces.)
 
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Ok, I see. Thanks for the tip. It worked.

I have a general/stupid question. How do you know which component of F is || or perpendicular to the incline. I tried several problems like this one (with numbers) and had trouble figuring out the axis

For the last part of the problem, how do I know that cos[tex]\theta[/tex] > sin[tex]\theta[/tex]?

I'm still getting used to latex. It's coming to me.
 
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musicfairy said:
How do you know which component of F is || or perpendicular to the incline. I tried several problems like this one (with numbers) and had trouble figuring out the axis
Always draw yourself a diagram and mark the angles. (That's the only way I know.) Since we know the incline makes an angle [itex]\theta[/itex] with the horizontal, it must make the same angle with the applied force F.
For the last part of the problem, how do I know that cos[tex]\theta[/tex] > sin[tex]\theta[/tex]?
Since [itex]\cos\theta - \mu\sin\theta[/itex] (the denominator) must be positive, you can deduce that [itex]\cos\theta > \mu\sin\theta[/itex]. (Not [itex]\cos\theta > \sin\theta[/itex].)
 
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I see now. Thanks for all the help.
 

FAQ: A problem that has force, friction on an incline

What is force?

Force is a physical quantity that describes the interaction between two objects. It can cause an object to accelerate, change direction, or deform.

How does force affect objects on an incline?

On an incline, force can cause an object to move down the incline due to gravity, or to remain stationary if the force is balanced by another force such as friction.

What is friction?

Friction is a force that opposes the motion of an object. It occurs when two surfaces are in contact and can be affected by factors such as surface roughness and the normal force between the surfaces.

How does friction affect an object on an incline?

Friction can either help or hinder the motion of an object on an incline. If the force of friction is greater than the force of gravity pulling the object down the incline, the object will remain stationary. If the force of friction is less than the force of gravity, the object will accelerate down the incline.

Can the force of friction be reduced on an incline?

Yes, the force of friction can be reduced on an incline by using a lubricant to decrease the contact between surfaces, or by decreasing the normal force between the surfaces.

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