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Is there an Age Problem in the Mainstream Model? (Oct 2005)
Cosmic age problem ? (Nov 2008)
Is There An Age Problem In The Early LCDM Model? (Jun 2010)
Massive galaxy cluster could upend theory of universe evolution, (Dec 2014)
and now: SDSS J013127.34-032100.1: a candidate blazar with a 11 billion solar mass black hole at z=5.18. (Jan 2015)
From that paper:
The solution they propose is that if some of the accretion energy went into powering the jet then it did not contribute to the Eddington limitation on the accretion rate.
Still the existence of this 'blazar', and the inference that there must be hundreds more, stretches the envelope limiting how massive an object can be that exists in the early universe.
Note the Eddington limited accretion rate determines the maximum rate that an object can accrete, so the actual rates, and hence the sizes achievable at a set red shift, are going to be less than this limit.
With the other objects described in the earlier threads it seems that the early universe contained some pretty large and evolved objects. As the red shift of observed objects keeps getting pushed back to earlier times it may be that a real age problem in the early universe of the standard LCDM may soon manifest itself.
We wait and see...
Garth
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Is there an Age Problem in the Mainstream Model? (Oct 2005)
Cosmic age problem ? (Nov 2008)
Is There An Age Problem In The Early LCDM Model? (Jun 2010)
Massive galaxy cluster could upend theory of universe evolution, (Dec 2014)
and now: SDSS J013127.34-032100.1: a candidate blazar with a 11 billion solar mass black hole at z=5.18. (Jan 2015)
From that paper:
SDSS J013127.34–032100.1: a candidate blazar with a 11 billion solar mass black hole at z=5.18
(From Abstract)
This implies that there must be other (hundreds) sources with the same black hole mass of SDSS J013127.34–032100.1, but whose jets are pointing away from Earth.
(From Discussion and Conclusions)
How can such a large mass be produced at z = 5.18? At this redshift the Universe is 1.1 Gyr old. Fig. 4 shows the change of the black hole mass in time, assuming different efficiencies . If the hole is not spinning, and [itex]\eta[/itex]< 0.1, then it is possible to grow a black hole up to 11 billion solar masses starting from a 100M⊙ seed if the accretion proceeds at the Eddington rate all the time. But if [itex]\eta[/itex] = 0.3, appropriate for a maximally spinning and accreting hole (Thorne 1974), then the growth is slower, and an Eddington limited accretion cannot produce a 1.1 × 1010M⊙ black hole at z = 5, unless the seed is 108M⊙ at z = 20.
This poses the problem: jetted sources are believed to be associated with fastly spinning black holes, therefore with highly efficient accretors. If the accretion is Eddington limited, jetted sources should have black holes lighter than radio–quiet quasars with not–spinning holes.
The solution they propose is that if some of the accretion energy went into powering the jet then it did not contribute to the Eddington limitation on the accretion rate.
Still the existence of this 'blazar', and the inference that there must be hundreds more, stretches the envelope limiting how massive an object can be that exists in the early universe.
Note the Eddington limited accretion rate determines the maximum rate that an object can accrete, so the actual rates, and hence the sizes achievable at a set red shift, are going to be less than this limit.
With the other objects described in the earlier threads it seems that the early universe contained some pretty large and evolved objects. As the red shift of observed objects keeps getting pushed back to earlier times it may be that a real age problem in the early universe of the standard LCDM may soon manifest itself.
We wait and see...
Garth
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