Analysis question involving Supremums and Infimums.

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In summary, the sequence $(a_n)_{n\in\Bbb N}$ is a decreasing sequence because $\gamma\le\delta$ for all $n\in\Bbb N$.
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Hi, first post - need some hints/help with the question attached, please. I have no idea where to go with it, to be honest.
 

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Hi, and welcome to the forum.

Here is what I made out from the picture.

Given a bounded sequence $(a_n)_{n\in\Bbb N}$, define $A_k\subset\Bbb R$ by $A_k:=\{a_n:n\ge k\}$ and set $a_k=\sup A_k$ and $b_k=\inf A_k$. Explain why $(a_k)_{k\in\Bbb N}$ is a decreasing sequence and why $(b_k)_{k\in\Bbb N}$ is an increasing sequence.

I renamed $B_k$ to $b_k$: this way uppercase $A_k$ denote sets and lowercase $a_k$ and $b_k$ denote numbers. This still seems wrong because both the original sequence and the defined one are denote by $a_k$. Could you click "Reply with Quote" button, examine the code that produces formulas and correct the problem statement as necessary?
 
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Evgeny.Makarov said:
Hi, and welcome to the forum.

Here is what I made out from the picture.

Given a bounded sequence $(a_n)_{n\in\Bbb N}$, define $A_k\subset\Bbb R$ by $A_k:=\{a_n:n\ge k\}$ and set $a_k=\sup A_k$ and $b_k=\inf A_k$. Explain why $(a_k)_{k\in\Bbb N}$ is a decreasing sequence and why $(b_k)_{k\in\Bbb N}$ is an increasing sequence.

I renamed $B_k$ to $b_k$: this way uppercase $A_k$ denote sets and lowercase $a_k$ and $b_k$ denote numbers. This still seems wrong because both the original sequence and the defined one are denote by $a_k$. Could you click "Reply with Quote" button, examine the code that produces formulas and correct the problem statement as necessary?

You've interpreted it correctly - however what you changed to lower case b is meant to be Beta, and the one before it that looks like an a is meant to be alpha, I just didn't write them very well. Sorry about the confusion but it's now correct. Ak is defined for each k in the positive natural numbers as well.
 
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So $\alpha_1=\sup\{a_1,a_2,a_3,\dots\}$ and $\alpha_2=\sup\{a_2,a_3,\dots\}$. Which one is bigger in general?

Formally, $\gamma=\sup C$, by definition, if two properties hold:

(1) $\gamma\ge x$ for all $x\in C$ (this means that $\gamma$ is an upper bound), and
(2) if $\delta\ge x$ for all $x\in C$, then $\gamma\le\delta$ (this means that $\gamma$ is the smallest possible upper bound).

Here we have $\alpha_1\ge x$ for all $x\in A_1$ by (1), and since $A_2\subseteq A_1$, it follows that $\alpha_1\ge x$ for all $x\in A_2$. We also know that $\alpha_2=\sup A_2$. What does property (2) say when applied to $\delta=\alpha_1$, $\gamma=\alpha_2$ and $C=A_2$?
 
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Sure, I'd be happy to help you with your analysis question involving supremums and infimums. Can you provide more context or information about the question? What specific concepts or topics are being discussed? This will help me provide a more tailored response. Additionally, have you tried looking at any relevant equations or definitions related to supremums and infimums? Understanding these concepts is crucial for solving problems involving them. Let me know and I'll do my best to guide you in the right direction.
 

FAQ: Analysis question involving Supremums and Infimums.

1. What is the definition of a supremum and infimum?

Supremum is the least upper bound of a set, while infimum is the greatest lower bound of a set.

2. How do supremums and infimums relate to limits?

Supremums and infimums are related to limits as they represent the boundary values of a set as it approaches a limit.

3. Can a set have more than one supremum or infimum?

Yes, a set can have multiple supremums or infimums if it is unbounded or contains duplicate values.

4. How are supremums and infimums used in mathematical analysis?

Supremums and infimums are used to prove the existence of limits, as well as to define the continuity and differentiability of functions.

5. What is the difference between supremum and maximum, and infimum and minimum?

The supremum is the least upper bound of a set, which may or may not be included in the set. The maximum, on the other hand, is the largest value in a set. Similarly, the infimum is the greatest lower bound of a set, which may or may not be included in the set, while the minimum is the smallest value in a set.

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