Angular velocity and acceleration of a plank

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In the discussion about the angular velocity and acceleration of a plank with differing masses at each end, it is established that as the plank rotates, the torque decreases due to the changing perpendicular component of gravitational force. Consequently, this decrease in torque leads to an increase in angular acceleration, indicating that the angular velocity must also be increasing. Participants clarify the definition of the lever arm and its role in torque calculations, noting that while the length of the plank remains constant, the effective lever arm decreases as the plank tilts. A typo regarding the relationship between torque and angular acceleration is corrected, reinforcing the understanding of the dynamics involved. Overall, the interaction highlights the importance of torque and its components in rotational motion.
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Homework Statement


A horizontal plank with a frictionless axis of rotation at its center has a large mass at one end and a small mass at the other end. It is held stationary and then released from rest. As the plank rotates (and before one end hits the ground), the magnitude of the angular acceleration of the plank (increases/decreases/or remains constant) and the magnitude of the angular velocity (increases/decreases/or remains constant) ?

Homework Equations


τ=I α
τ=r F_perp

The Attempt at a Solution


The solution to this problem is that τ=I α, therefore if torque decreases, then angular acceleration increases. Thus the magnitude angular velocity must be increasing, because the angular acceleration is nonzero.

However, I can't seem to figure out why the torque is decreasing in this problem. I know that τ=r F_perp, but how can I apply this to the problem? The lever arm obviously stays the same length. So is the perpendicular force decreasing because after the plank tilts downwards, the force of gravity downwards has both a horizontal component and a vertical component with respect to the plank (force of gravity stays the same)?

Thanks for reading! Any help is appreciated
 
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Kevodaboss said:
The lever arm obviously stays the same length.
Usually the "lever arm" is defined as the perpendicular distance from the line of force to the axis of rotation. So by that definition, the lever arm decreases.

The length of the plank doesn't change, so I suspect that's what you meant.
Kevodaboss said:
So is the perpendicular force decreasing because after the plank tilts downwards, the force of gravity downwards has both a horizontal component and a vertical component with respect to the plank (force of gravity stays the same)?
Right. The component of the weight perpendicular to the plank decreases, so the torque decreases.
 
Ok, that makes sense. Thanks for the help!

Doc Al said:
Usually the "lever arm" is defined as the perpendicular distance from the line of force to the axis of rotation. So by that definition, the lever arm decreases.

The length of the plank doesn't change, so I suspect that's what you meant.

Right. The component of the weight perpendicular to the plank decreases, so the torque decreases.
 
Kevodaboss said:

The Attempt at a Solution


The solution to this problem is that τ=I α, therefore if torque decreases, then angular acceleration increases.

Check that.
 
CWatters said:
Check that.

What do you mean?
 
CWatters said:
Check that.

Oops never mind. I meant if torque decreases, angular acceleration decreases
 
Kevodaboss said:
Oops never mind. I meant if torque decreases, angular acceleration decreases
I had assumed you just messed up that sentence, since what followed didn't depend on it. (Otherwise I would have said something.)
 
Doc Al said:
I had assumed you just messed up that sentence, since what followed didn't depend on it. (Otherwise I would have said something.)

Yeah, just a typo. Thanks for all the help!
 

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