I Are Dimensions Truly Relative to the Observer in the Coastline Paradox?

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The discussion centers on the concept of dimensions being relative to the observer, using examples of points, planes, and spheres. It argues that while the observed size of an object may change with distance, the inherent dimensionality remains constant; a point is always a point, regardless of perception. The conversation emphasizes that scientific understanding should not rely on personal observation alone. Mathematical models utilize these dimensions differently based on context, such as modeling Earth as a point or a sphere for various applications. The coastline paradox and fractal dimensions are suggested as related topics for further exploration.
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A point is taken as an example of a 1D, a plane 2D and a sphere is 3D. If a point is viewed say at 1000x enlarged the point appears as a plane similarly if we a view a large sphere from very far it does appear as a dot. So can we say that dimension are relative to the observer ? Had our sights been different would dimension be different ?
 
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A point is taken as an example of a 1D, a plane 2D and a sphere is 3D. If a point is viewed say at 1000x enlarged the point appears as a plane similarly if we a view a large sphere from very far it does appear as a dot. So can we say that dimension are relative to the observer ? Had our sights been different would dimension be different ?
No. The OBSERVED or APPARENT size will depend on distance but the actual will not.
 
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Flying_Dutchman said:
If a point is viewed say at 1000x enlarged the point appears as a plane
No - a point is always a point. If it looks different at any distance then it's an extended object. Similarly an extended object is an extended object always, even if you can't resolve it.

"I personally cannot see it therefore it does not exist" is not the way to do science.
 
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Ibix said:
No - a point is always a point.
Follow-up question: How do we know?
Answer: Because we define it that way.
 
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A point is taken as an example of a 1D, a plane 2D and a sphere is 3D. If a point is viewed say at 1000x enlarged the point appears as a plane similarly if we a view a large sphere from very far it does appear as a dot. So can we say that dimension are relative to the observer ? Had our sights been different would dimension be different ?

If you want to study something interesting about dimensions try this:

 
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Flying_Dutchman said:
A point is taken as an example of a 1D, a plane 2D and a sphere is 3D. If a point is viewed say at 1000x enlarged the point appears as a plane similarly if we a view a large sphere from very far it does appear as a dot. So can we say that dimension are relative to the observer ? Had our sights been different would dimension be different ?
The point, the plane, and the sphere are all mathematical objects. In physics we create models that make use of these objects. For example, we can model Earth as a point and get a really good understanding of how it behaves relative to other members of our solar system. However, for other purposes we may model a patch of Earth's surface as a plane, like when we are building a house. For other purposes, we model it as a sphere.
 
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