[ASK] About Circles in Coordinates

In summary, if the multiplication product of PA's and PB's gradients are always k, then C is a circle.
  • #1
Monoxdifly
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3. A(a,b), B(-a,-b), and C is plane XOY. P moves along with curve C. If the multiplication product of PA's and PB's gradients are always k, C is a circle only if k = ...?
4. The radius of a circle which meets X-axis at (6,0) and meets the curve \(\displaystyle y=\sqrt{3x}\) at one point is ...
5. A circle meets the line x + y = 3 at (2,1). It also meets the point (6,3). Its radius is ...

I have no idea how to do number 3, or even the meaning.

For number 4, I substituted x = 6 and y = 0 to the equation \(\displaystyle (x-a)^2+(y-b)^2=r^2\) and got \(\displaystyle 36-12a+a^2+b^2=36\).

For number 5, I substituted both coordinates to the circle equation and got 2a + b = 10.

Please help how to continue each number.
 
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3.) I am thinking to let point $P$ be $(x,y)$. We are told then to let:

\(\displaystyle \frac{x-a}{y-b}\cdot\frac{x+a}{y+b}=k\)

Multiply through by $(y+b)(y-b)$ to get:

\(\displaystyle x^2-a^2=k(y^2-b^2)\)

Rearrange as:

\(\displaystyle x^2-ky^2=a^2-kb^2\)

So, what must $k$ be in order for this to be a circle?
 
  • #3
MarkFL said:
Rearrange as:

\(\displaystyle x^2-ky^2=a^2-kb^2\)

So, what must $k$ be in order for this to be a circle?

-1?
That's the only way I can think to get rid of that -k from the coefficient of y.
 
  • #4
Monoxdifly said:
-1?
That's the only way I can think to get rid of that -k from the coefficient of y.

Yes, the general form for a circle is:

\(\displaystyle (x-h)^2+(y-k)^2=r^2\)

This is a circle centered at $(h,k)$ with radius $r$. The $k$ here has no relation to the $k$ in the problem. So, we need the coefficient of $x^2$ and $y^2$ to be the same, which means $k$ must be $-1$, which also means the segments $\overline{PA}$ and $\overline{PB}$ will always be perpendicular, related to the fact that in a semicircle, any triangle whose base is on the diameter of the semicircle and its other vertex is on the circular portion of the semicircle, will be a right triangle.
 
  • #5
Thank you. :)

What about number 4 and 5?
 
  • #6
For problem 4, if the radius of the circle is $r$, then where must its center be? What relation must there be between the radius touching the parabolic curve and the line tangent to the parabola at that point?
 
  • #7
If the circle touches the $x$-axis only at $(6,0)$, then the circle must be centered at $(6,r)$.

Now, let's let the circle touch the curve $y=\sqrt{3x}$ at $(a,\sqrt{3a})$. The slope of that curve at the tangent point is:

\(\displaystyle y'(a)=\frac{3}{2\sqrt{3a}}=\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{\frac{3}{a}}\)

And so the radius of the circle to the tangent point must have a slope perpendicular to the tangent line, so we may state:

\(\displaystyle \frac{r-\sqrt{3a}}{6-a}=-2\sqrt{\frac{a}{3}}\)

We also know the distance from the center of the circle to the tangent point is $r$, hence:

\(\displaystyle r^2=(6-a)^2+(r-\sqrt{3a})^2\)

If we expand this second equation, we obtain:

\(\displaystyle r^2=36-12a+a^2+r^2-2r\sqrt{3a}+3a\)

\(\displaystyle 0=36-9a+a^2-2r\sqrt{3a}\)

\(\displaystyle r=\frac{a^2-9a+36}{2\sqrt{3a}}\)

Substituting into the first equation, we find:

\(\displaystyle \frac{\dfrac{a^2-9a+36}{2\sqrt{3a}}-\sqrt{3a}}{6-a}=-2\sqrt{\frac{a}{3}}\)

Multiplying through by $2\sqrt{3a}$ we get:

\(\displaystyle \frac{a^2-15a+36}{6-a}=-4a\)

\(\displaystyle a^2-15a+36=4a^2-24a\)

\(\displaystyle 3a^a-9a-36=0\)

\(\displaystyle a^2-3a-12=0\)

Applying the quadratic formula, and discarding the negative root, we obtain:

\(\displaystyle a=\frac{3+\sqrt{57}}{2}\)

Hence:

\(\displaystyle r=(13-\sqrt{57})\sqrt{\frac{3}{2(13+\sqrt{57})}}\approx2.0551\)
 
  • #8
For problem 5), let's let the equation of the circle be:

\(\displaystyle (x-h)^2+(y-k)^2=r^2\)

Now, we know the slope of the radius to the given line is $1$, thus:

\(\displaystyle k=h-1\)

We also know from the 2 given points on the circle that:

\(\displaystyle r^2=(2-h)^2+(1-k)^2=(6-h)^2+(3-k)^2\)

Expand:

\(\displaystyle 4-4h+h^2+1-2k+k^2=36-12h+h^2+9-6k+k^2\)

Simplify and solve for $k$:

\(\displaystyle k=10-2h\)

Thus:

\(\displaystyle h-1=10-2h\implies h=\frac{11}{3}\implies k=\frac{8}{3}\)

Hence:

\(\displaystyle r=\sqrt{\left(2-\frac{11}{3}\right)^2+\left(1-\frac{8}{3}\right)^2}=\frac{5}{3}\sqrt{2}\)
 

FAQ: [ASK] About Circles in Coordinates

What is a circle in coordinates?

A circle in coordinates is a set of points on a plane that are equidistant from a given point, called the center. It can be represented using the equation (x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = r^2, where (h,k) is the center of the circle and r is the radius.

What is the equation of a circle in coordinates?

The equation of a circle in coordinates is (x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = r^2, where (h,k) is the center of the circle and r is the radius.

How do you find the center and radius of a circle in coordinates?

To find the center and radius of a circle in coordinates, you can use the equation (x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = r^2, where (h,k) is the center of the circle and r is the radius. You can solve for h and k by setting x and y to specific points on the circle and solving for h and k. The radius can then be found by taking the square root of r^2.

How do you graph a circle in coordinates?

To graph a circle in coordinates, you can plot the center point (h,k) and then use the radius to plot points on the circle. For example, if the radius is 3, you can plot points 3 units away from the center point in all directions. Then, connect the plotted points to create the circle.

What are some real-world applications of circles in coordinates?

Circles in coordinates have many real-world applications, such as in geometry, architecture, engineering, and physics. They can be used to design circular structures, calculate the distance between two points, and model circular motion. They are also commonly used in GPS technology, as the coordinates of a location can be represented as a point on a circle.

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