Atmosphere and volume - vacuum cannon limitations

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of atmospheric air versus pressurized air in cannon demonstrations. The speaker explains that the use of atmospheric air is more common due to simplicity and cost, but using pressurized air can provide more power. The speaker also notes that the maximum velocity depends on pressure and density, and using high-pressure air may not make a significant difference unless the temperature is also raised. Additionally, the use of pressurized air may be more effective for shorter barrels or heavier projectiles.
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https://physics.csuchico.edu/~eayars/publications/AJP00961.pdf
http://www.phys.utk.edu/demoroom/MECH/The%20Vacuum%20Canon.pdfSo I get the outside atmosphere is what provides air density and such in the pdf above^.
However, why is it that most cannon demonstrations use just the air from the atmosphere? Is this to simplify demonstrations / save on costs?

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Would it be better to use a pressurized gas chamber around the broken seal area than rely on Earth's atmosphere? Or is my thinking incorrect? If it is better to use a pressurized chamber, then would there be an appreciable change to the formulas presented in the pdf provided?
 
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Would it be better to use a pressurized gas chamber
Definitely. That's why we tend to use chemical explosions for propelling bullets, rather than vacuum pumps. The Air Bazooka is really just a novelty. If you were to try to propel an artillery shell, you'd need a vast amount of air in a very long pipe as the performance depends on the amount of Energy stored in the 'vacuum'.
An air gun (spring operated) is legally required to have no more than 16J (12 ft lbs). That can be obtained by a modest size spring in a small compression chamber. The Cautionary Note in the first reference points out that the KE of the pingpong ball on exit is a lot higher than that - luckily it soon slows down as it has very poor aerodynamics!

A good fun project, though.
 
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Would it be better to use a pressurized gas chamber around the broken seal area than rely on Earth's atmosphere? Or is my thinking incorrect? If it is better to use a pressurized chamber, then would there be an appreciable change to the formulas presented in the pdf provided?
The maximum velocity depends on Pressure/density. A six feet vacuum canon seems to get close to that velocity already, if loaded with a single ping-pong ball. High pressure air won't help unless you can raise the pressure without raising the density by raising the temperature. Spring piston air guns do this by compressing the air, as do firearms of course. if you just have a high-pressure air reservoir, it likely will not help.
If you had a heavier projectile or a shorter barrel, using pressured air might make more sense.
 
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FAQ: Atmosphere and volume - vacuum cannon limitations

What is the relationship between atmosphere and volume in a vacuum cannon?

The atmosphere and volume in a vacuum cannon are inversely related. This means that as the volume of the cannon decreases, the atmospheric pressure inside the cannon increases. This is because there is less space for the air molecules to spread out, causing them to collide more frequently and increase the pressure.

What is the maximum volume that a vacuum cannon can reach?

The maximum volume that a vacuum cannon can reach is limited by the strength of the materials used to construct it. As the pressure inside the cannon increases, the walls of the cannon must be able to withstand the force exerted by the air molecules. Therefore, the maximum volume of a vacuum cannon is dependent on its design and the materials used.

How does the atmosphere affect the speed of objects launched from a vacuum cannon?

The atmosphere plays a significant role in the speed of objects launched from a vacuum cannon. As the pressure inside the cannon increases, the air molecules become more compressed and create a resistance against the object being launched. This resistance, known as air drag, can significantly decrease the speed of the object and limit the distance it can travel.

Can a vacuum cannon work in outer space?

No, a vacuum cannon cannot work in outer space. This is because outer space is already a vacuum, meaning there is no atmosphere present. Without an atmosphere, there is no pressure difference to create the force needed to launch an object from the cannon. Additionally, there is no air resistance in outer space, so the object would continue to travel at a constant speed.

Are there any safety concerns when using a vacuum cannon?

Yes, there are safety concerns when using a vacuum cannon. The high pressures created inside the cannon can cause it to explode if not constructed properly. Additionally, the high speeds and forces involved in launching objects from the cannon can be dangerous if not handled carefully. It is important to follow all safety precautions and use proper protective gear when operating a vacuum cannon.

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