Average Acceleration and Time Taken to accelerate

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The discussion centers on a physics assignment involving a racing car's acceleration from 20 km/h to 160 km/h over 300 meters. The original calculations for average acceleration and time taken were deemed incorrect due to the use of incorrect units, specifically failing to convert speeds from km/h to m/s. It was highlighted that without knowing whether the acceleration is constant, determining average acceleration is not feasible. The importance of considering mass and forces was acknowledged, but the primary issue was the unit conversion error. Correcting the speeds to m/s resolved the confusion and led to the proper calculations.
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Hi, I've been asked to solve below as part of an assignment. Below is pretty much what I've submitted but it has been concluded to be incorrect. I am unsure as to why hence the question. Is it due to the fact that I have not taken the mass or forces into consideration?

I have only taken these into consideration for questions (iii) and (iv) as shown below.

Any is greatly appreciated.

1. Homework Statement

A racing car of mass 850 kg accelerates from 20 km/h to 160 km/h over a distance of 300 metres. Frictional forces and wind resistance can be assumed to be 800N.

Determine the following:

(i)The average acceleration

(ii)The time taken to accelerate from 20 km/h to 160 km/h

(iii)The tractive force produced by the car to provide this acceleration - not required for this thread

(iv)The car finally reaches a speed of 250km/h. Friction and wind resistance are 1800 N at this speed. What power output is required to maintain this speed? - not required for this thread

Homework Equations



(i) v2=u22as

(ii) s= 1/2(u+v)t

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
1602=20SUP]2[/SUP]2a300

1602-202 / 2 * 300 = a

a=42 m/s2

(ii) 300= 1/2(160+20)t

t= 300/90

t= 3.3s
 
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AutumnBeds said:
Hi, I've been asked to solve below as part of an assignment. Below is pretty much what I've submitted but it has been concluded to be incorrect. I am unsure as to why hence the question. Is it due to the fact that I have not taken the mass or forces into consideration?

I have only taken these into consideration for questions (iii) and (iv) as shown below.

Any is greatly appreciated.

1. Homework Statement

A racing car of mass 850 kg accelerates from 20 km/h to 160 km/h over a distance of 300 metres. Frictional forces and wind resistance can be assumed to be 800N.

Determine the following:

(i)The average acceleration

(ii)The time taken to accelerate from 20 km/h to 160 km/h

(iii)The tractive force produced by the car to provide this acceleration - not required for this thread

(iv)The car finally reaches a speed of 250km/h. Friction and wind resistance are 1800 N at this speed. What power output is required to maintain this speed? - not required for this thread

Homework Equations



(i) v2=uSUP]2[/SUP]2as

(ii) s= 1/2(u+v)t

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
1602=20SUP]2[/SUP]2a300

1602-202 / 2 * 300 = a

a=42 m/s2

(ii) 300= 1/2(160+20)t

t= 300/90

t= 3.3s

You could first try solving the problem where the initial and final speeds are ##20m/s## and ##160 m/s## and see what answer you get.
 
AutumnBeds said:
The average acceleration
Second time today I have come across this blunder in a question.
There is not enough information to determine average acceleration. If you were told the acceleration is constant then you could find it from the two speeds and the distance, but if it is not then you need to know the time. For further discussion see section 3 of https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/frequently-made-errors-mechanics-forces/. (The discussion there is in respect of average force, but it apples equally to average acceleration.)
AutumnBeds said:
v2=uSUP]2[/SUP]2as
There is a mistake in that equation. I would have thought it just a typo, but you seem to have taken it to be correct.
 
PeroK said:
You could first try solving the problem where the initial and final speeds are ##20m/s## and ##160 m/s## and see what answer you get.
Thanks. I think this was the answer I was looking for. The comments on the work said Velocities require to be in m/s. Was a simple case of converting km/h to m/s.
 
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