Big doubt about graphene in batteries

In summary: The battery part number may be a custom packaging of standard cells. Device manufacturers often request a minor modification or slightly different packaging if ordering a large quantity of component parts.
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if i put graphene into a lithium battery improves the battery in anyway?
Well people i'm looking electric Motorcycles. And the same seller it's selling a 72V50Ah battery and a 72V60Ah battery, both IN THE SAME WEIGHT, every battery in the shop occurs the same. So or we have a factory mistake, scam, witchery .....or...graphene in the lithium. I have been reading that you can use graphene to improve batteries, hence, you can raise the power practically without extra weight using this extraterrestrial material.

¿True of Fake? or ¿Graphene witchery?
 

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Lithium ion batteries already incorporate graphite as a standard anode material. Most proposals for graphene enhanced lithium ion batteries start with this in mind. In the commercial sector, graphene is almost always simply a marketing term used to refer to highly exfoliated and restacked graphite, rather than a single 2D layer of carbon. There are a few benefits from this: first, the exfoliation and restacking breaks up the crystallinity of graphite, which allows the anode to incorporate a higher density of metal ions, leading to a somewhat higher energy storage capacity. Another benefit is the amorphous nature of the graphitic matrix can sometimes facilitate faster charging.

Additionally, graphene has shown mixed results as a physical barrier for corrosion protection, which is of perennial concern in battery fabrication. I don’t know of any commercialization of this effect, though (mainly because it doesn’t work so well).
 
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Synco said:
¿True of Fake?
Regarding doubts, what I would worry about is not the graphene but whether I could identify the battery (and the manufacturer) based on that type number.

I couldn't.
 
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TeethWhitener said:
Lithium ion batteries already incorporate graphite as a standard anode material. Most proposals for graphene enhanced lithium ion batteries start with this in mind. In the commercial sector, graphene is almost always simply a marketing term used to refer to highly exfoliated and restacked graphite, rather than a single 2D layer of carbon. There are a few benefits from this: first, the exfoliation and restacking breaks up the crystallinity of graphite, which allows the anode to incorporate a higher density of metal ions, leading to a somewhat higher energy storage capacity. Another benefit is the amorphous nature of the graphitic matrix can sometimes facilitate faster charging.

Additionally, graphene has shown mixed results as a physical barrier for corrosion protection, which is of perennial concern in battery fabrication. I don’t know of any commercialization of this effect, though (mainly because it doesn’t work so well).
Very useful information, thank you very much
Rive said:
Regarding doubts, what I would worry about is not the graphene but whether I could identify the battery (and the manufacturer) based on that type number.

I couldn't.
Me too
 
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The battery part number may be a custom packaging of standard cells. Device manufacturers often request a minor modification or slightly different packaging if ordering a large quantity of component parts. The component supplier then assigns a unique Part No.

This not only makes it easier for the end-product manufacturer, but also makes them the only source for a replacement part; much additional profit gained that way.

Anyhow, in a Google search, the first four hits show Li-Ion Protection Boards with part numbers that correlate with some data in the photos.

https://www.google.com/search?q="207260"+battery

Now, if someone that can read Chinese can be found...

Happy Hunting,
Tom
 
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Tom.G said:
Now, if someone that can read Chinese can be found...
编号 just means serial number, and 产品型号 just means product number. I imagine it’s just a misprint.
 

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What makes graphene a promising material for batteries?

Graphene is a single layer of carbon atoms arranged in a two-dimensional honeycomb lattice. Its exceptional electrical conductivity, high surface area, mechanical strength, and flexibility make it a promising material for enhancing battery performance. These properties can potentially lead to faster charging times, higher energy densities, and longer battery life.

How does graphene improve battery performance compared to traditional materials?

Graphene can improve battery performance by providing better electrical conductivity, which allows for faster electron and ion transport. This can result in quicker charging and discharging cycles. Additionally, its high surface area can increase the capacity of the battery by accommodating more ions. Graphene's mechanical strength also helps in maintaining the structural integrity of the battery during repeated charge and discharge cycles, leading to longer battery life.

Are there any challenges in integrating graphene into commercial batteries?

Yes, there are several challenges in integrating graphene into commercial batteries. These include the high cost of producing high-quality graphene, difficulties in scaling up production processes, and ensuring consistent and uniform integration of graphene into battery materials. Additionally, there are technical challenges related to optimizing the interaction between graphene and other components of the battery to achieve the desired improvements in performance.

What types of batteries can benefit the most from graphene integration?

Various types of batteries can benefit from graphene integration, including lithium-ion batteries, supercapacitors, and next-generation batteries like lithium-sulfur and solid-state batteries. In lithium-ion batteries, graphene can enhance both the anode and cathode materials, leading to higher energy densities and faster charging times. Supercapacitors can benefit from graphene's high surface area and conductivity, resulting in improved energy storage and power delivery capabilities.

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