Calculating Angular Momentum: Uniform Rod and Point Mass Collision

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A uniform rod with a mass of 4.4 kg and length of 0.827 m is struck by a point mass of 0.808 kg at a right angle, resulting in a collision where the block stops. The discussion focuses on calculating the final speed of the center of mass of the rod after the collision and the energy lost during the event. The initial approach involved calculating angular momentum and moment of inertia, but it was pointed out that the angular momentum of the colliding object must be considered. The correct method emphasizes using conservation principles to find the center of mass velocity without needing to calculate angular velocity. The key takeaway is to apply conservation of momentum for the center of mass velocity calculation.
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Homework Statement


A uniform rod (M 4.4 kg, L 0.827 m) starts at rest on a frictionless table. A point mass = 0.808 kg hits the rod at a right angle at speed 6.39 m/s. The block strikes the rod at a distance of 0.12 m below the center of mass, and stops. Assume the block does not stick to the rod. Find:

1. vf, the speed of the center of mass of the rod after the collision.

2. Find the energy lost?

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The Attempt at a Solution


Vf of the cm...
i got omega by finding the linear momentum imparted upon the rod by the force of the colliding object and dividing it by the moment of inertia of the rod rotationg about the center of mass...
but now for the V of the cm... if the rod were just rotating it would be zero but the table is frictionless so there is translational motion...
so i used the formula... .5Mblock*Vblock^2=.5Mrod*Vrod^2 + .5iomega^2
and Vrod came out to be wrong...

is there a flaw in my reasoning...? thank you
 
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avenkat0 said:
Vf of the cm...
i got omega by finding the linear momentum imparted upon the rod by the force of the colliding object and dividing it by the moment of inertia of the rod rotationg about the center of mass...

You go wrong right at the first step. if you insist on calculating omega first, you didn't calculate the angular momentum of the colliding object before the collision.

Fortunately for you the question doesn't ask for omega, but only for the cm velocity. That's easy to calculate: use conservation of...(not energy!)
 
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