Calculating Expectation Values and Uncertainties in Quantum Mechanics

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In the discussion about calculating expectation values and uncertainties in quantum mechanics for a particle in a one-dimensional box, the expectation values for position, momentum, and energy were found to be [x] = 0, [p] = 0, and [E] = h_bar*pi^2*n^2 / (2*m*a^2). Participants noted the need to calculate additional expectation values to determine uncertainties delta(x), delta(p), and delta(E). There was a mention of using the relation delta(x) = h_bar/sqrt(2m(V0 - E)) for approximations, but the focus remained on the definitions of variance for accurate calculations. A key point raised was the reason why delta(E) is zero in this context, highlighting the importance of understanding the underlying principles rather than just performing computations.
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Homework Statement



Assume that a particle in a one-dimensional box is in its first excited state. Calculate the expectation values [x], [p], and [E], and the uncertainties
delta(x), delta(p), and delta(E). Verify that delta(x)*delta(p)>=h_bar/2.

Homework Equations



Psi=sqrt(2/a) cos(pi*x/a) e^(-i*E*t/h_bar)

[x]=Int(Psi_star x Psi, -a/2, a/2)

[p]=Int(Psi_star (-i*h_bar*d/dx) Psi, -a/2, a/2)

[E]=Int(Psi_star (i*h_bar*d/dt) Psi, -a/2, a/2)

The Attempt at a Solution



After evaluating the above integrals, I get:

[x]=0

[p]=0

[E]=h_bar*pi^2*n^2 / 2*m*a^2

I am trying to calculate the quantities delta(x), delta(p), and delta(E) but I am having trouble doing that. Can you please suggest some hints on how to proceed. Thank you.
 
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What are the definitions of delta(x) and delta(p) in terms of expectation values?
 
This is a trivial question, but would I be able to approximate it using the relations:

delta(x)=h_bar/sqrt(2m(V0 - E))
 
ynuo said:
This is a trivial question, but would I be able to approximate it using the relations:

delta(x)=h_bar/sqrt(2m(V0 - E))

That's a new relation to me. Just look at the definition of the variance and follow the prescription.
 
StatMechGuy said:
That's a new relation to me. Just look at the definition of the variance and follow the prescription.

Yep. You need to calculate six expectation values in order to calculate deltax, deltap and deltaE, and only three of them are <x>, <p> and <E>.
 
Do you know a reason why \Delta E is zero for this problem ? Besides the actual computation of it, which can be avoided by knowing this reason.
 
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