Calculating Frictional Force in a Water Eroded Tube: A Case Study

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The discussion revolves around calculating the frictional force between a rock blocking the exit of a water-eroded tube in a limestone bed. The tube, located 5.6 m below the pond's surface, has a diameter of 4.05 cm and is subject to various forces, including friction, air pressure, and water pressure. Participants suggest using the formula F = PA, where P is the combined atmospheric and water pressure, to determine the frictional force. The pressure on the rock is calculated as p_w = ρgh + p_atm, simplifying the analysis due to the small size of the hole. Overall, the focus is on accurately applying these principles to find the frictional force affecting the rock.
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This one is a doozy . . .

A fresh water pond that is 15.7 m deep is contained on one side by a cliff. The water has eroded a nearly horizontal "tube" through a bed of limestone, which allows the water to emerge on the other side of the cliff. If the "tube" has a diameter of 4.05 cm, and is located 5.6 m below the surface of the pond, what is the frictional force between the "tube" wall and a rock that is blocking the exit?

I've spent a bit too long on this one, and I am getting nowhere . . . any assistane would be greatly appreciated. The sooner the better as well lol. Thanks for your help in advance.
 
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actually I had the same question as well.

I'm wondering if I am missing a Force in my force diagram.

I used F = PA
And then the equal and opposite reaction to the force of the water pushing on the rock would be the friction between the rock and the wall going in a direction opposite to the direction of motion.
and where P = Patm + Dgh, where D= density of the fluid and Patm is the atmospheric pressure pushing down on the water.
Is that what you did?
 
Use the summation of forces Fnet = 0.

Your rock is acted on by
1. friction
2. air pressure - side 1
3. water pressure - side 2

Since, the hole is relatively small, we can make the calculations simple with not statics of bodies involved. The pressure of the water on side 2 of the rock is equal to:

p_w = \rho g h + p_{atm}

Using F = pA, the answer shouldn't be far off.
 
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