Can I Modify a PDE Expression If It's Constrained to a Curve?

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In summary, the individual is asking if it is allowed to change the expression ##\frac{\partial f}{\partial r} + \frac{\partial f}{\partial \theta}## to ##\frac{df}{dr} + \frac{df}{dr} \frac{dr}{d\theta}## if "f" is constrained to the curve r=r(θ). The reasoning is that since the curve equation is known, then f does not depend on θ, only on r (which is a function of θ). The response confirms this conceptually, but notes that notationally, some terms should be partial derivatives. The chain rule for partial derivatives is used to show that these expressions are equivalent.
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Hello folks,

If we have the expression, say

[itex]\frac{∂f}{∂r}[/itex]+[itex]\frac{∂f}{∂θ}[/itex], am I allowed to change it to

[itex]\frac{df}{dr}[/itex]+[itex]\frac{df}{dr}[/itex][itex]\frac{dr}{dθ}[/itex],

if "f" is constrained to the curve r=r(θ).

My reasoning is that since the curve equation is known, then f does not really depend on the angle θ, but only on r (and r is a function of the angle, kind of a compound function).

Does this make sense?
 
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This seems right conceptually, but notationally, some of those should be partial derivatives.
##\frac{\partial f}{\partial r} + \frac{\partial f}{\partial r} \frac{dr}{d\theta} = \frac{df}{dr}##
 
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Yes, thank you, this makes a lot of sense. The chain rule for partial derivatives.
 

FAQ: Can I Modify a PDE Expression If It's Constrained to a Curve?

What is a PDE constrained to a curve?

A PDE (partial differential equation) constrained to a curve is a mathematical model that describes physical phenomena or processes that occur along a specific curve or path. It combines the principles of calculus, geometry, and physics to represent how a quantity or system changes over time and space along a given curve.

How is a PDE constrained to a curve different from a regular PDE?

A PDE constrained to a curve differs from a regular PDE in that it takes into account the specific geometric properties of the curve, such as curvature and tangential direction, in addition to the usual variables of time and space. This allows for a more accurate representation of the physical phenomenon being studied, as it considers the local properties of the curve rather than treating it as a straight line or plane.

What types of problems can be solved using PDEs constrained to a curve?

PDEs constrained to a curve can be used to model a wide range of problems, including fluid dynamics, heat transfer, electromagnetism, and quantum mechanics. They are particularly useful for studying physical phenomena that occur along a specific path, such as the flow of a river, the trajectory of a projectile, or the movement of a wave along a coastline.

What are the main challenges in solving PDEs constrained to a curve?

Solving PDEs constrained to a curve can be challenging due to the complex mathematical equations involved and the need to consider the specific properties of the curve. It also requires advanced numerical techniques and computational power to accurately solve these equations and obtain meaningful results. Additionally, the accuracy of the solution may be affected by the choice of curve and the discretization of the curve.

What are some applications of PDEs constrained to a curve in real-world problems?

PDEs constrained to a curve have numerous applications in real-world problems. For example, they can be used to model the flow of air over an airplane wing, the diffusion of heat through a curved surface, or the behavior of electromagnetic waves in a curved waveguide. They are also used in various engineering fields, such as fluid mechanics, structural mechanics, and geophysics, to study complex systems and optimize designs.

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