Can Kindness Be the Key to a Harmonious Scientific Community?

[Joel]

I was looking at some viking beads to day, a tv show called time team attempted to reproduce one, it was more difficult than they thought.

http://www.regia.org/glass.htm

Fascinating! They seem to have done a lot in glass, altough they imported some of the more difficult work. Next time I think first.

Regarding glass windows, the only mentioning on the page seems to be this:

In the later Anglo-Saxon period, glass was used modestly for some church windows. To date only blue glass seems to have been found, with the odd pieces displaying some decorative brushwork on them. Clear window glass may have been used in the homes of a few wealthy people although this is not certain.

 

[Joel]

I am unsure of the authentisity of this article, it is some thing to think about
if it is true.
http://www.lochness.co.uk/exhibition/viking.html

I'm sorry, but I can't resist:

Eminent researchers like me are only devoted to the science and research of Loch Ness and would never issue statements unless we thought they were true.

Are you allowed to say eminent researcher and Loch Ness in the same sentence?

With that said, who knows... Maybe. But it didn't become clear what time peried they where talking about in the press release.

 

[gurkhawarhorse]

am i the only one who went offline and missed all these nice talks?

 

[wolram]

If i remember correctly Roman glass was recycled by later peoples, it seems an
art that was lost and found to some degree more than once.

 

[gurkhawarhorse]

excuse me, my i have your attention please,

this thread is hijacked.
i repeat, this thread is hijacked.
just like before

 

[Joel]

If i remember correctly Roman glass was recycled by later peoples, it seems an
art that was lost and found to some degree more than once.

Yes, this is what I remember from the glass exhibition, it was lost after Roman times. What I don't remember is when it was re-invented. But concidering the different techniques presented in your first link, it seems there was some kind of new production after roman times, even if most of the items where made by recycling old glass.

 

[wolram]

I'm sorry, but I can't resist:

Are you allowed to say eminent researcher and Loch Ness in the same sentence?

With that said, who knows... Maybe. But it didn't become clear what time peried they where talking about in the press release.

I could not find a follow up article, on the other hand not all loch ness research
is crackpot.

 

[gurkhawarhorse]

whoa, romans knew about glass?

goes to ripleysbeliveitornot.com

 

[wolram]

excuse me, my i have your attention please,

this thread is hijacked.
i repeat, this thread is hijacked.
just like before

You have our attention horsey, hi jacked you say, nay, just blowing out some
cobwebs,

 

[gurkhawarhorse]

whot? sorry mister, but u just got me confused!

 

[Joel]

I could not find a follow up article, on the other hand not all loch ness research
is crackpot.

I don't know, but I don't doubt it. I do know there is plenty of real research about many myths, Atlantis, as another example.

 

[Joel]

whoa, romans knew about glass?

goes to ripleysbeliveitornot.com

Egyptians also knew about glass.

http://www.glassonline.com/infoserv/history.html

 

[gurkhawarhorse]

guess the old gorkhalis were too dumb to even know what sand is

 

[Joel]

Yeah, well... The europeans where too dumb to know about gunpoweder before the 13th century. Nobody gets 'em all.

 

[gurkhawarhorse]

ah... we borrowed gun powder from chinese, and looted guns from british.
well in all the wars nepal has ever fought, it has never used any thing called gun.
well, lost none.

 

[wolram]

http://www.geocities.com/ladysveva/BeadHistory.html

This is a good history of glass bead manufacture, it seems the vikings made
and imported/traded beads.

 

[Joel]

http://www.geocities.com/ladysveva/BeadHistory.html

This is a good history of glass bead manufacture, it seems the vikings made
and imported/traded beads.

Interesting, indeed. But did they use it for windows, the ultimate question remains?

I found http://www.stainedglass.org/main_pages/sgaa/historySG.html history about glass windows, sadly without a mentioning of vikings.

 

[wolram]

Interesting, indeed. But did they use it for windows, the ultimate question remains?

I found http://www.stainedglass.org/main_pages/sgaa/historySG.html history about glass windows, sadly without a mentioning of vikings.

I think the answer must be that it was far to valuable to use for windows,
the roman method of, "blowing", glass into tubes and then cutting and forming
it into flat sheet, seems to have been lost for some time, any other method ie
casting would be slow and expensive, but that is only my take on the matter.

 

[Smurf]

Everyone who's posted in this thread except me (and pengwuino if he has) is a dumbass.

 

[gurkhawarhorse]

I cannot take this anymore
I'm saying everything I've said before
All these words they make no sense
I find bliss in ignorance
Less I hear the less you'll say
But you'll find that out anyway

 

[gurkhawarhorse]

Everyone who's posted in this thread except me (and pengwuino if he has) is a dumbass.

I find the answers aren't so clear
Wish I could find a way to disappear
All these thoughts they make no sense
I find bliss in ignorance
Nothing seems to go away
Over and over again

Chorus

Shut up when I'm talking to you
Shut up, shut up, shut up (2x)

I’m about to break!

Chorus

 

[klusener]

How the hell did this thread go from discussing being nice to glass beads?

 

[gurkhawarhorse]

How the hell did this thread go from discussing being nice to glass beads?

hijacked by the starter of the thread himself

 

[wolram]

How the hell did this thread go from discussing being nice to glass beads?

well you pheasant pluckers wouldn't have a clue, so go dip your wicks in candle
fat, and have a ball.

 

[Astronuc]

I rarely visit towns or cities, to me the picture post card serenity has gone, it
may return with pedestrianisation of city and town centers, but that may be
years away if ever.

England and Scotland have some wonderful small and midsize towns to visit.

And in Germany - see Rothenburg ob der Tauber - walled city overlooking Tauber Valley.

In Spain - Salamanca (find Cervantes) and Toledo are so cool! You have to see them in person - it's better than post cards.

 

[Mk]

England and Scotland have some wonderful small and midsize towns to visit.

Yes, so does Afghanistan, and Borneo.

 

[Astronuc]

Yes, so does Afghanistan, and Borneo.

I very much want to go to Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and Pakistan - all have very interesting histories, and I very much wish to experience the Karakoram and Pamirs. Hopefully that won't be too far in the future.

 

[matthyaouw]

England and Scotland have some wonderful small and midsize towns to visit.

They do! Do you have any favorites?

 

[rocketboy]

9 pages in 13 hrs (up until my post here)...that's pretty impressive. Check out the first page, there are posts minutes apart frequently.

 

[arildno]

Every country has nice towns, particularly all the home towns of PF'ers!

 

[Joel]

I think the answer must be that it was far to valuable to use for windows,
the roman method of, "blowing", glass into tubes and then cutting and forming
it into flat sheet, seems to have been lost for some time, any other method ie
casting would be slow and expensive, but that is only my take on the matter.

That would be my take too. In addition, contrary to southern countries, glass windows in the north would have had to isolate cold, which probably was better done with lether.

 

[wolram]

That would be my take too. In addition, contrary to southern countries, glass windows in the north would have had to isolate cold, which probably was better done with lether.

Joel, i could on another occasion, talk about this in depth, excuse me please,
i am some what distracted.

 

[Mk]

I very much want to go to Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and Pakistan - all have very interesting histories, and I very much wish to experience the Karakoram and Pamirs. Hopefully that won't be too far in the future.

I hope you don't get shot! Are you white? I would never think about visiting no matter what the history. That would be a debt to society!

 

[Mk]

I think the answer must be that it was far to valuable to use for windows,
the roman method of, "blowing", glass into tubes and then cutting and forming
it into flat sheet, seems to have been lost for some time, any other method ie
casting would be slow and expensive, but that is only my take on the matter.

So does arnildo blow well?

 

[wolram]

So does arnildo blow well?

I would not know, i have all ways wanted to try glass blowing though.